Message from @Thinky

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2020-01-02 04:05:58 UTC  

They ought to get a hand in here

2020-01-02 04:06:37 UTC  

As for No. 1, yes. During Smallpox in particular

2020-01-02 04:06:54 UTC  

Cow Pox was used to immunize people quite effectively, when initially tested

2020-01-02 04:07:13 UTC  

that is a funny one have you seen the mark up on certain drugs in the united states lol

2020-01-02 04:07:18 UTC  

Granted the way in which it was done was deemed...unethical by today's standards

2020-01-02 04:07:32 UTC  

1000%mark up

2020-01-02 04:07:37 UTC  

Yes, and do you think that is a general constant world-wide?

2020-01-02 04:07:54 UTC  

Or an epidemic with the ineptitude of our own government?

2020-01-02 04:08:08 UTC  

I, for one, tend to indicate the latter

2020-01-02 04:16:58 UTC  

No. 1 and No. 2 are both relatively easy to answer, actually.

2020-01-02 04:17:08 UTC  

Oh, times like these I wish for the laptop

2020-01-02 04:18:14 UTC  

The results of which have been determined over 200 years of use, and the effects are overwhelmingly positive as a result. Lest we are to believe that Smallpox magically disappeared

2020-01-02 04:18:54 UTC  

Evidently, the result was far cheaper, safer, and more effective than its invasive predecessor

2020-01-02 04:19:15 UTC  

Which requires rudimentary surgery followed by clotting rotten flesh with certain substances

2020-01-02 04:19:49 UTC  

As you can imagine, the efficacy of this was questionable at best, and was horrendously expensive to replicate for the people who received it.

2020-01-02 04:20:48 UTC  

On a slight tangent, what determined the efficacy of vaccines without placebo, bias or other such things was simple.

2020-01-02 04:20:55 UTC  

Redundancy, redundancy, redundancy.

2020-01-02 04:21:31 UTC  

Do the test, do it again, have thousands of others do it thousands of additional times in the last 200 years, test on different critters in different conditions.

2020-01-02 04:21:54 UTC  

If Anti-Vax in general was as thorough you may find an easier time breaking into the "mainstream" with such ideas.

2020-01-02 04:22:07 UTC  

After all, trust but verify.

2020-01-02 04:22:36 UTC  

And importantly, make sure you don't contaminate the samples

2020-01-02 04:23:39 UTC  

number 1 has never been done

2020-01-02 04:23:42 UTC  

EVER

2020-01-02 04:24:09 UTC  

It has, a fair few times.

2020-01-02 04:24:19 UTC  

I believe one of the first was even in 1798

2020-01-02 04:24:27 UTC  

Following the first Smallpox trials

2020-01-02 04:24:30 UTC  

no it has not and they give a lame excuse why too lol

2020-01-02 04:24:34 UTC  

At least, the person was wholly blind

2020-01-02 04:24:42 UTC  

obvoiusly you have not done your research

2020-01-02 04:24:54 UTC  

never been a double blind placebo ever

2020-01-02 04:24:58 UTC  

I think you need to look a bit more into Edwards Jenner

2020-01-02 04:25:03 UTC  

And his experiments

2020-01-02 04:25:16 UTC  

Initial and otherwise.

2020-01-02 04:25:20 UTC  

yawn

2020-01-02 04:25:23 UTC  

Alright, I'll bite.

2020-01-02 04:25:25 UTC  

Define for me

2020-01-02 04:25:32 UTC  

"double blind placebo"

2020-01-02 04:25:35 UTC  

In your terms

2020-01-02 04:25:40 UTC  

omfg

2020-01-02 04:25:47 UTC  

I don't wish to take out of context your argument, after all.

2020-01-02 04:25:53 UTC  

are you fking kidding me right now