Message from @Fran

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2020-01-13 02:00:19 UTC  

yea but as a result of that

2020-01-13 02:00:26 UTC  

I'm not talking about results of that

2020-01-13 02:00:47 UTC  

Your making a claim that making a claim is philosophy

2020-01-13 02:01:04 UTC  

And I'd call that claim philosophical lol

2020-01-13 02:01:32 UTC  

And that’s also a claim

2020-01-13 02:01:36 UTC  

and?

2020-01-13 02:01:40 UTC  

so is experimenting philosophy?

2020-01-13 02:02:04 UTC  

What do you consider the act of experimenting

2020-01-13 02:02:19 UTC  

Usually people associate this with some cognitive process

2020-01-13 02:02:24 UTC  

putting to chemicals together for example

2020-01-13 02:02:30 UTC  

two

2020-01-13 02:02:37 UTC  

do you record your observations?

2020-01-13 02:02:41 UTC  

no

2020-01-13 02:02:53 UTC  

Does anyone conciouslly ask questions about it

2020-01-13 02:02:56 UTC  

no

2020-01-13 02:03:19 UTC  

Ok so in the world were two robots put two chemicals together and no one sees it or makes claims about it, this is claimless

2020-01-13 02:03:25 UTC  

so I wouldn't call this philosophy

2020-01-13 02:03:42 UTC  

any more than you call two distant planets colliding philosophy

2020-01-13 02:04:04 UTC  

If you attempt to study that behavior though?

2020-01-13 02:04:10 UTC  

or study anything

2020-01-13 02:04:17 UTC  

That is inherently philsophical

2020-01-13 02:04:23 UTC  

G'day fellas

2020-01-13 02:04:29 UTC  

Fun fact almost everything is making a claim

2020-01-13 02:04:35 UTC  

yeah

2020-01-13 02:04:36 UTC  

so anything that humans consciously do is philosophy ?

2020-01-13 02:04:43 UTC  

any claims they make

2020-01-13 02:05:02 UTC  

Your a human

2020-01-13 02:05:06 UTC  

really philosophy is answering claims, I guess just a claim is just pure logic

2020-01-13 02:05:18 UTC  

whats the difference?

2020-01-13 02:05:18 UTC  

But I don't see a strong line between the two

2020-01-13 02:05:39 UTC  

@inky if I say "A circle is square" that's a logical statement

2020-01-13 02:05:42 UTC  

between a claim and an action conciously made

2020-01-13 02:06:04 UTC  

If I say "No, a circle is not square, because circles are defined as X while squares are Y and X cannot equal Y" that's a logical argument

2020-01-13 02:06:08 UTC  

And therefore philosophy

2020-01-13 02:06:28 UTC  

@Fran that's not a logical statement, it is a claim followed by evidence

2020-01-13 02:06:37 UTC  

wait now you are changing your terms

2020-01-13 02:06:55 UTC  

@inky i literally just said I'd probably just define logical claims as logic

2020-01-13 02:07:33 UTC  

so , gravity exists, a logical claim is not philosophy

2020-01-13 02:07:48 UTC  

That's not a purely logical claim

2020-01-13 02:07:58 UTC  

You're making a claim about physical reality

2020-01-13 02:08:13 UTC  

Sorry about that, I did not read your text correctly