so I wouldn't call this philosophy

any more than you call two distant planets colliding philosophy

If you attempt to study that behavior though?

or study anything

That is inherently philsophical

G'day fellas

Fun fact almost everything is making a claim

yeah

so anything that humans consciously do is philosophy ?

any claims they make

Your a human

really philosophy is answering claims, I guess just a claim is just pure logic

whats the difference?

But I don't see a strong line between the two

@inky if I say "A circle is square" that's a logical statement

between a claim and an action conciously made

If I say "No, a circle is not square, because circles are defined as X while squares are Y and X cannot equal Y" that's a logical argument

And therefore philosophy

@Fran that's not a logical statement, it is a claim followed by evidence

wait now you are changing your terms

@inky i literally just said I'd probably just define logical claims as logic

so , gravity exists, a logical claim is not philosophy

That's not a purely logical claim

You're making a claim about physical reality

Sorry about that, I did not read your text correctly

so is, a circle is square

Fran what shape is the earth

one is just true

Logical claims can be proved directly from premises. If I say "All X are Y" this implies logically "Not Y implies not X"

If I say all apples are red, if it's not red it's not an apple

were all globies

and its late

im of to bed

bye

this is logically true even if all apples aren't red, this is logically valid

It's not logically sound because there are some green apples

so what makes it philosophical

philisophy is the process of going through this argumentation

This logical deduction or inference or abduction

usually philsophical arguments are many premises long

so if there is no argument there is no philosophy?