just joined, legitimate globe believer and in school as a physicist here for serious debate not “you believe its flat youre an idiot” , i really do want to know what you believe if you are a flat earther

just joined, legitimate globe believer and physicist here for serious debate not “you believe its flat youre an idiot” , i really do want to know what you believe

im a second year

id like to think there might be something after death, even if we dont retain our conciousness

i mean theres no evidence but its just comforting

i dont believe in any deity or spirituality, its just a little hope that i might be wrong even with the lack of evidence

even though the EM spectrum is "immaterial" (which its not because photons) , the notion of something immaterial effecting something material makes no sense. there is no interaction there

i wouldnt say that photons are fully zero mass, while depending on how you approach it a photon could be considered zero mass if its at rest, but they never are, they have energy and momentum: which means they must have mass

@Gwen @Fran ^

relativity

total enrgy of the system/particle is equal to the mass of the particle/system times the speed of light squared

only at rest

exactly

they never are thats theoretical

photons always move, the "photons have zero mass" is only when they theoretically are at rest

http://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/ParticleAndNuclear/photon_mass.html

if the rest mass were non zero

rest mass being non zero means not massless

and yea its mostly theoretics

you cant test most of the stuff with protons

photons

*

yes you can?? @Fran especially geology

cosmology not as much

yes

carbon dating

you dont have to

with time yes

yes just not in one life time

one is far more possible

there are many experiments that have taken more than one generation

well duh, but you can scale it down

carbon dating is just as reliable as a full recreation

btw

ahahaha an advanced race

thats not all that it is, thats just one technique, you can even find out the specific atmosphere that sediment formed in, and what its made of

can you provide evidence?

saying "you could be wrong" is not a way to dispute a claim

last thursdayism lmao

that doesnt mean you are right

no lmao

you obviously have never been around a real scientific community

no because you are posing the claim after evidence

that doesnt make you right

prsent new evidence

thats how it works in real science

the way we already have

it has been proved, now disprove it by making a claim, and present evidence to disprove that first claim

last thursdayism is the most absurdly lazy ideology

no one said you could???

purpose doesnt matter

again last thursdayism is lazy

it isnt science, its a philosophy, not actual science

science is not philosophy lmao

science is not the why, its the how

scientism oh boy

no

obviously

i dont believe there is a single real scientist who says science can explain literally everything

no, only the laws and processes the universe abides by

^

science is not philosophical

yes i do

science and the philosophy of science are different @Fran

science is not philosophy because philosophy does not require evidence

used to

for a reason

ok then by your ideas almost everything is philosphy and thats just ridiculous

just because by definition something might be related or connected by processes, does not mean they are considered similar

or parts of one another

philosophy is the study of knowledge and existence

no it is the study of the behavior of our physical/natural world

not really everything@Gwen

@Fran no, it is the aquisition of knowledge

to aquire knowledge and to study the actual idea of knowledge are different things

yes ive taken a few 2000 lvl political philosophy classes

so you are saying that literally learning anything ever is philosophy?

no no

acquiring any knowledge at all

which is a form of philosophy innit??

so every thing is philosophy

what about anything not making claims?

but you just acquired the knowledge that you stubbed your toe

so by your logic

that is philosphy

but in doing that, you did acquire that knowledge didnt you?

whether you make that claim or not?

yea but as a result of that

so is experimenting philosophy?

putting to chemicals together for example

two

no

no

so anything that humans consciously do is philosophy ?

whats the difference?

between a claim and an action conciously made

wait now you are changing your terms

so , gravity exists, a logical claim is not philosophy

so is, a circle is square

one is just true