Message from @jeremy

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2020-03-22 01:56:22 UTC  

the variable you can change

2020-03-22 01:56:30 UTC  

the variable u must change

2020-03-22 01:56:49 UTC  

not can u have to systematically manipulate the independent variable which is the cause of the effect

2020-03-22 01:57:22 UTC  

the independent variable is the cause to ur natural pbserved phenomena

2020-03-22 01:57:32 UTC  

the natural observed phenomena is the dependent variable

2020-03-22 01:57:36 UTC  

also its the effect

2020-03-22 01:57:44 UTC  

the effect we are trying to find the cause of

2020-03-22 01:58:59 UTC  

how are u going to even start doing science without knowing the dependent variable

2020-03-22 01:59:16 UTC  

yes, that is true. By can I meant the one you will change but in principle you dont have to. sometimes you leave it the same for a bit to see how the results vary with no change

2020-03-22 01:59:21 UTC  

because sometimes they do

2020-03-22 01:59:26 UTC  

and its useful to know

2020-03-22 01:59:39 UTC  

you might also have several independent variables

2020-03-22 01:59:44 UTC  

no u must systematically manipulate the indpeendent variable to make sure it is the cause of ur effect

2020-03-22 02:00:04 UTC  

Well you're going to change it but really were arguing semantics here

2020-03-22 02:00:08 UTC  

if u have more than one iv then its inconclusive and u failed

2020-03-22 02:00:14 UTC  

because I understand what you are trying to say and I agree with the point

2020-03-22 02:00:23 UTC  

and that is what I meant

2020-03-22 02:00:35 UTC  

I was just being a bit pedantic

2020-03-22 02:00:41 UTC  

so u think step one is ask a question ? does that sound realistic

2020-03-22 02:00:55 UTC  

u think is my wife making meatloaf tonight a science thing ?

2020-03-22 02:01:03 UTC  

come on

2020-03-22 02:02:00 UTC  

we only disagree on the first step and it doesnt really matter. The main point is there is an idea, an inspiration for the experiment

2020-03-22 02:02:10 UTC  

anyway I really do have to do this report

2020-03-22 02:02:18 UTC  

so I will be in and out from here on

2020-03-22 02:02:29 UTC  

how can u disagree do u not understand that u can not form a hypothesis without observing a natural phenomena

2020-03-22 02:03:25 UTC  

jeremyToday at 8:48 PM
step one observe a natural phenomena water boils step 2 hypothesis water boils at 100 degrees celsius at 1 atmosphere of pressure step 3 we will experiment to see if this is correct

2020-03-22 02:03:36 UTC  

how would u make that hypothesis without knowing water boils

2020-03-22 02:04:02 UTC  

^^^

2020-03-22 02:04:53 UTC  

it really hurts my head cause i go through this nonstop

2020-03-22 02:05:17 UTC  

people think u can form a hypothesis without observing a natural phenomena lol

2020-03-22 02:06:24 UTC  

ok here is my hypothesis elephants fly in snowfall under direct moonlight

2020-03-22 02:06:41 UTC  

dang elephants dont fly

2020-03-22 02:07:11 UTC  

do u just guess random hypothesis then go see if the effect actually happens that would take forever

2020-03-22 02:08:13 UTC  

its inane to think u can make a hypothesis without first observing a natural phenomena

2020-03-22 02:09:13 UTC  

Honestly I thin k they should send everyone to space for like 5mins to see if the earth is globe or flat, even thou that would the whole world economy crash and every country to go into debt

2020-03-22 02:10:54 UTC  

do u have a claim or point ?

2020-03-22 02:12:18 UTC  

sure right after we go to the second law of thermodynamics violation called outerspace we are going to santas house

2020-03-22 02:12:59 UTC  

what no just see who's right or o you think we can't even get to space atm

2020-03-22 02:14:27 UTC  

do u think earth isnt in a container ?

2020-03-22 02:14:39 UTC  

are u a gas pressure denier

2020-03-22 02:14:55 UTC  

no wtf ?