Message from @Sassy Undeniably
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Not too much, vaccines on the other hand
so
if the earth is flat, what is the earth then?
Interesting interview
so is that the only religion claiming a flat earth?
The sonar guy was interesting
@greenbean no. Heliocentricty is a religion
No flat earth is not religion it is Truth has nothing to do with a religious belief. Why it matters what shape of the earth is @ImJustKawaii is because you are born here and don't know where you live because you have been deceived and made a slave since before you were born and every being born on this earth has the innate inherent right to be born free and know where they live. Because of this deception the world has been lead astray and you have no clue about who you are or where you live.
so is history correct when it recorded people who believed in a flat earth who would punish those who challenged them?
@Deleted User the flat plain to which we live is a realm we know little about accept that the only way to enter is birth through a women and the only way to leave is through death or giving up your vessel. It is flat as far as we know and not moving and the lunar bodies movie around of on an elliptical that is predictable at all times.
@greenbean I have never seen anything documenting that. If you could provide a source for that I would be happy to look at it. I do have documents that you can look up that show when and who implemented the deception of a spherical earth and it comes from the very individuals who initiated it.
so just for clarity @Sassy Undeniably, what method are you using to arrive at your reasons to determine that the earth is flat?
1. Observation in all known dimensions 2. Self testing and repeatable proving 3. Process of elimination based on the evidence presented and compared to the true scientific method omitting theoreticals. 4. Self evidence 4. Spiritual Truth and discernment
are there any tests that can be used independently?
Independent of what?
meaning by another individual
alright, so I'm interested in the test you are most confident in.
also I'm curious, how confident are you in your claim that the earth is flat?
say on a 0 to 100% scale.
0 meaning none whatsoever and 100 is as much as humanly possible
I live in Texas and I have driven over 1000 miles in 4 directions and have recorded some of my observations. There are hardly any obstructions visually for miles between where I live and the oil fields I traveled. I first started my observation on a hill from a totally different city then the one I live in now so it is about 3 years of observation through travel by line of sight measurements. As far as my confidence I would say confidence over conviction is faulty. I know the earth is flat so I am sure not confident.
there are a dozen of theories of what the shape of the 'earth' actually is, flat earth being of them the more popular one
so if someone conducted the same test as you, using the same method, and came to the conclusion that they can't know the earths shape.
how would we determine which is true @Sassy Undeniably?
That is the thing @Deleted User as a Flat earther we aren't saying that we are 100 about the shape we know that it is not a sphere and subscribe to the model that best describes what we observe and think.
do you know about the australians, the aborginies(spelling) their legends, well, australia used to be contected to the 'ice wall' and they tell stories about that, the beings who live on the other side
@greenbean If they conducted the same test they would have a mental break and not be able to ignore it. If they said they came up with complete opposite I would know that they are a liar and in need of mental health at least
well it's been nice talking @Sassy Undeniably.
@Deleted User I have heard many oral histories over the years even before I was woke and always wondered what they were talking about but I was sleep at the time and didn't know what I was looking at or hearing. Now I do. The other side will have many interpretations and only they can describe what they mean by other side. I subscribe to the electromagnetic earth so the torus model so it could be that as above so below or a whole other realm.
@greenbean yes of course
it just doesn't all seem very scientific
@Deleted User thats interesting do you have any stories to link?
i might have but not sure
stuff i've heard that has been translated in to english
Flat earth isn't real
And im hired by nasa