cause it matters so much that some bs from way back then was the start of all your disbelief and well you have to get the order right about who threw the first punch and which punch was the best one

@Deleted User https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/texts/talmud.shtml are you really saying that the talmud was composed in the middle ages? where are you getting this from?

never mind that the victor or oppressor's told the history we just going to ignore that fact and just keep going

@Deleted User every search says from 1st century ad to 6th century ad. nowhere close to the middle ages. where are you looking for that pseudo history?

Maybe I’m thinking of the Mishnah as well

i had some guy the other day tell me that the sumerians were round earthers, pseudohistorians are on the rise

My mistake- does not invalidate my point however

As the article you posted said, 2nd-5th century

So when the other article you posted says post-Talmudic, that means 5th century onward

Either way, it puts its creation well after classical Greece as we discussed earlier, and well after the “2000 years ago” number you cited

''Between the 2nd and 5th centuries''

Yep, that is when it was written

Interesting 👍 @Sassy Undeniably

So “post Talmudic” would mean after that period

But even if you want to take the 2nd century as your line

And say the whole thing was written on 1/1/100

All my points still stand.

it's literally written CE, another word for AD

*1/1/101

Yep, correct

What is your question?

At this point I’ve forgotten your original point if there ever was one

What are you trying to prove?

If it’s that the first flat earth reference is in the Zohar, then that is debunked by your own dates

*round earth

man, you can find somebody else to troll, you first referred to the talmud being created to the middle ages now you completely switch views then say ''i was right'' wtf?

I was mistaken, I was thinking of the combined Talmud and mishna

But as I said, even at the dates you provided for the Talmud, your hypothesis is disproven

What even is this conversation?

i have no idea, she said talmud now switches to something else

Yes River, would you care to state what you’re trying to prove?

i'm honestly confused

@Flat Earth PhD There's curvature in that new horizon footage. 😬

@rivenator12113 was saying that the first reference to a round earth is in the Talmud

And I was disproving that

you said that the zohar was created in the middle ages, which was false. you said the talmud was created in the middle ages, which was false.

i mean, based on what is said in the talmud itself, it wouldnt be surprising if its existence is much older than we're told. i've never read any text that encourages such deceptive behavior

The Zohar was created in the Middle Ages

What does this have to do with the earth's shape though? <:confused:625494374402228244>

@Deleted User straw manning right now? i said the zohar