Most satellites in general, actually

article or video that shows you how to track them?

like the iss?

OPSEC has been keeping tabs on them for a while

I am sure there is

Feel free to refer to the last photos

it's just a picture, until i can get a substantiated article or video that shows you how to track them it's safe to assume that they aren't there .

Didn't the ISS use to have pretty bad orbit decay

Substantiated how?

It did

And does still

bruh

@Flat earth BEAST If a picture doesn't suffice, than what supports the premise of your argument?

If pictures are not allowed

Pictures taken by amateur astronomers, no less

Multiple times, even within the last 10 years

I saw the ISS by seeing a slow moving star and saw it was going to pass right over a building, so focused on the building went up a few degrees and waited. Sure enough it drifted into view then I tracked it slowly before it was beyond my fov.

https://www.space.com/34650-track-astronauts-space-new-interactive-map.html this is a substantiated article that shows you how to observe the iss and a link to where you can track it. i still haven't gotten one for those small satellites that you claimed were there besides a picture of them

http://www.isstracker.com/ here's the tracker

i want the same for the small satellites that you claimed were there, no pictures please that's not enough evidence for me

So I did see the iss

yes, no caps is where it's at

the iss

Wait you want a government funded tracking website to show you the location of a satellite?

Feel free to send an inquiry to Vandebergh

https://www.cloudynights.com/uploads/monthly_02_2009/post-18315-14072912098602_thumb.jpg

@TheNidhugg if you claim that it's real and it exists then we should be able to observe it, all i got was pictures from astronomers which i have no idea of know they are real or not. what i can know is real is if i can observe it through me own telescope

yes and congratulations on being scammed by thinking that is was the International Space Station @TheNidhugg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA-224 this has the orbital inclination, which can be overlaid on a map to show where the satellite is

What is stopping you from observing it?

Which is how we determined it was Key Hole

In the first place

Appreciate it, Trump

Step 1: get telescope step 2: observe it?

Nothing is stopping me

what makes you think something is stopping me from observing it?

Then go for it, find a clear night first though.

Usually that helps a ton.

@TheNidhugg i'm talking about the small satellites, have you ever observed them?

important thing is that there is no measurable curve, earth remains flat and stationery. if they had a $150 billion budget then i assume they can run out a u2 spy plane with a hologram to depict the iss, there's also time to refuel it (night time when there is no lunar phase present)

I havent tried, I might need something bigger than my 8" thkugh