https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA-224 this has the orbital inclination, which can be overlaid on a map to show where the satellite is

What is stopping you from observing it?

Which is how we determined it was Key Hole

In the first place

Appreciate it, Trump

Step 1: get telescope step 2: observe it?

Nothing is stopping me

what makes you think something is stopping me from observing it?

Then go for it, find a clear night first though.

Usually that helps a ton.

@TheNidhugg i'm talking about the small satellites, have you ever observed them?

important thing is that there is no measurable curve, earth remains flat and stationery. if they had a $150 billion budget then i assume they can run out a u2 spy plane with a hologram to depict the iss, there's also time to refuel it (night time when there is no lunar phase present)

I havent tried, I might need something bigger than my 8" thkugh

Astronomical Twilight is best for observing the sky

Indeed.

Though other times could work too

yes

It is a beautiful hobby though

That's a lot of resources spent... what is the reasoning for them doing all that?

I used to have a telescope but it was like $60, ancient, and broken

it's a hell of a lot cheaper

Why bother claiming there is an ISS at all

They spend all these billions on faking and projecting things

isn't it a lot cheaper?

To get more billions?

Margin of profit seems small

have you seen the iss livestreams? complete fakery

Why not just open up a lemonade stand?

small? you call billions small okay

you must be extremely rich?

Billions in expenditure

to think that billions is small

Basically hits net 0

it's a billion dollar industry..

And you expend most of those resources

There are far more economical ways to scam people

they lie about their expenditure and take out all the profit

1,000,000,001 - 1,000,000,000 = 1

Very small profit

Just ask Gwyneth Paltrow

I mean why bother with a hoax like that? Lies invariably fall apart under scrutiny... and it's a pretty complex lie from the sound of it.