Message from @Citizen Z
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they are not lined up in the ecliptic
as i stated 10 times
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Lol their ecliptic isnt lined up for an eclipse? You realize its called the ecliptic because that's how you have eclipses right?
Eclipse. Ecliptic plane. The plane eclipses happen on.
!mute @TheNidhugg
aw ok
i was liking the discussion
i asked many times to move to civil debate
he isnt intertested in answers or what we believe or do not believe
i think he gave an answer a few times to how it can work but you didnt accept them as accurate answers
Oh really?
I may have missed it
We were talking about refraction and infrared
He ignored that and sent a debunk video from a different observation
Never watched the video i sent
Then changed the subject to the moon
wasnt it about eclipses in the first place
He couldnt even think about what I was saying
I asked a simple thing
ok
what were you saying
During some selenelion eclipses the darkening of the moon (shadow lets call it) starts from the top of the moon.
So you have the sun above one horizon and the moon above opposite horizon
But the shadow is on the top of the moon
The earth is below both sun and moon
Its very strange
He was welcome to preach to.his hearts content in the debate room but this room is not intended for a huge debate
yeah the description of the channel says that
I dont see why that is so much trouble
i dont know much about selenelion eclipses so ill take your word on it until i look into it more when im interested enough
is it something that supposed to support the flat earth or globe
It doesnt support the heliocentric model
Has nothing to do with flat earth really
More of indirect evidence
ok
i was looking at some sources when you and nin were talking
"The little-used name for this effect is called a "selenelion," a phenomenon that celestial geometry says cannot happen.
And indeed, during a lunar eclipse, the sun and moon are exactly 180 degrees apart in the sky. In a perfect alignment like this (called a "syzygy"), such an observation would seem impossible. But thanks to Earth's atmosphere, the images of both the sun and moon are apparently lifted above the horizon by atmospheric refraction. This allows people on Earth to see the sun for several extra minutes before it actually has risen and the moon for several extra minutes after it has actually set."
essentially it all boils down to atmospheric refraction based on what this says