Message from @Cakeeater
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here is the articles i used
it was only quick research
do you have a counter argument?
@Cakeeater yes
Its a matter of assuming
Either its fake or not fake
Therebis evidence to suggest its just a model
So can you honestly tell if that is taking off from the moon or is it a model?
I can't tell, i don't know for certain but that doesn't mean its faked
It looks like it begins to tilt over later in flight to burn prograde
The flight plan is precalculated
and the camera controls were preprogramed
if the flight path is known its not overwhelmingly difficult to figure out where the ascent module will be from a given position
The gif shows the craft isnt really going up
The problem with debunking this is you disagree with the general consensus, so what evidence can i use that you will accept
Its just made to look like that
Look at all the evidence
i would have to look at the flight plan to be sure however
I only have to be right once. You have to be right every time
do you know the basics of orbital mechanics?
So many things with apollo
to get into a orbit it needs to accelerate perpendicular to the ground
Which they dont
Gtg for a bit
ok
also it wouldn't burn exactly perpendicular to the ground, especially near the start
it would be a higher angle so it gains altitude as well
so i found the article that gif came from
https://www.aulis.com/apollo17_ascent.htm
Its impressive looking, but i don't think its exactly proof
firstly who is the author, Julius A. Birch. I can't find anything about them except this article on aulis online
secondly there are several assumptions within it and i can not verify their work
@Cakeeater Orbital mechanics don't work if there is no round body to orbit around, therefore Apollo missions are just shams.
get back to work
@Cakeeater Are you his taskmaster or something?
its complicated
I'm trying to explain to my friend that he shouldn't blindly trust in globeheads. However, he keeps asking me to show him evidence, but doesn't accept anything I show him. What are some more "legitimate" things I could show him?
he wants my attention