Message from @Saturn

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2020-02-22 04:25:51 UTC  

We can pretty easily prove gravity. It just depends if you want to accept it or not.

2020-02-22 04:26:13 UTC  

As for warped space time, I'd answer with the relativistic motion of high-velocity matter.

2020-02-22 04:26:27 UTC  

^

2020-02-22 04:26:46 UTC  

We actually have pretty solid equations for that.

2020-02-22 04:26:49 UTC  

Let me find one.

2020-02-22 04:26:58 UTC  

This has happened with Scott Kelly.

2020-02-22 04:26:58 UTC  

Ah, right, cannot post it.

2020-02-22 04:27:10 UTC  

They'd probably argue that he's a liar.

2020-02-22 04:27:13 UTC  

Or some variation thereof.

2020-02-22 04:27:21 UTC  

True.

2020-02-22 04:27:27 UTC  

Ah, satellites!

2020-02-22 04:28:03 UTC  

They need to adjust internal clocks every few months due to moving at relativists speeds.

2020-02-22 04:28:05 UTC  

They argue those are balloons.

2020-02-22 04:28:09 UTC  

And are also fake.

2020-02-22 04:28:13 UTC  

...

2020-02-22 04:28:22 UTC  

I told you, it doesn't have to make sense.

2020-02-22 04:28:28 UTC  

They just need *some* kind of explanation.

2020-02-22 04:28:33 UTC  

And cognitive dissonance can do the rest.

2020-02-22 04:28:59 UTC  

The second commercial Spaceflight is available, I’m buying tickets for as many flat earthers as possible.

2020-02-22 04:29:15 UTC  

Don't.

2020-02-22 04:29:23 UTC  

They may want a free ticket.

2020-02-22 04:29:29 UTC  

Save them for family, friends...

2020-02-22 04:29:31 UTC  

Good point.

2020-02-22 04:29:58 UTC  

Ah, what the hell, I’ll wait until they’re cheaper in the far future.

2020-02-22 04:30:11 UTC  

If flat earthers still exist then.

2020-02-22 04:30:19 UTC  

(Which I doubt.)

2020-02-22 04:31:20 UTC  

A lot of the issues that get brought up by flat earthers is that you're simply *telling* them something is the case. In the example of satellites adjusting their internal clocks due to special relativistic time dilation, there's no observable proof that they do this - just conjecture.

2020-02-22 04:31:26 UTC  

For a while there were those who doubted that humans could live 1,000 feet off the ground, and insisted that pilots, balloonists or anything similar faked it all.

2020-02-22 04:31:56 UTC  

Well, there is observable proof of this, but the problem they have is that it comes from sources they deem unreputable.

2020-02-22 04:32:23 UTC  

yes, exactly. there's no way for regular people to actually observe this themselves.

2020-02-22 04:32:36 UTC  

Well, there is...

2020-02-22 04:32:38 UTC  

*But*

2020-02-22 04:32:38 UTC  

so, it's an appeal to authority.

2020-02-22 04:32:43 UTC  

You need to put down some money to do it.

2020-02-22 04:33:01 UTC  

Flat earthers only deem sources reputable if they agree with them.

2020-02-22 04:33:01 UTC  

Less of an appeal to authority, but a close tangential all the same.

2020-02-22 04:33:07 UTC  

Sure.

2020-02-22 04:33:31 UTC  

you're saying regular people can get onto a moving satellite and watch the clocks adjust for time dilation?

2020-02-22 04:33:53 UTC  

They can put something on a moving satellite, yes.

2020-02-22 04:34:04 UTC  

Or on a sub-orbital rocket.

2020-02-22 04:34:12 UTC  

They can conduct their own experiments with enough money.