Message from @Royal Chaotic
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How ?
Saying x is right and y is left does not make it easier
I still fail to see how nazism and communism differ besides a handul of moderate things.
lol what
Im asking.
Because i want to know.
Well one is for hierarchy one is not
@Iron nazis = umberto echo facism & Jewish question
Communism = decomodication & worker democracy plus abolishing state
We can break that up into what each work means
The JQ was about to be answered in Communist Russia.
Well do you now know the difference between communism and nazism @Iron
@Royal Chaotic They have few differences in application, some, not alot. More in theory.
@Iron I would content with that, it's inevitable that nazis will comite genocide, thier irrational bigotry against minorities will only rationally lead to such. Communism has nothing inherent thats leads to genocide or mass death beyond a revolution that is though to be the only way to achieve communism (case study rojova**).
Yes it does, its predicated on class warfare.
@Iron the difference between class and the rest of the lines of oppression is you can stop bieng a capitalist, you can't stop bieng black. I can turn my buisness into a worker owned company and have us elect the manager, my friends can't change thier skin color
Genocide and killing is genocide regardless
@Royal Chaotic what is irrational about ethnocentrism and in-group self interest? Because that's what leads to Ethnonationalism dog
That's why one might want to kill a foreigner
@Iron perhaps I was unclear, while communism certanly applys a class lense of analysis and does not support keeping class, it doesn't like keeping the employer employee model that people like me use, it unlike race can be changed. When the communist regime comes for the capitalist the capitalist can stip bieng a capitalist with out their death ( the buisness is turned into a worker owned entreprise ) when the nazis comes for the black the person can't stop bieng black. Nazis require the death, the communist dont.
@The Desert Fox VI well I presume we are working from the final goal of maximizing wellbeing for highest number concious biengs?
There is no evidence of reliquishibg capital or property was a means to preserve life, they were liquidized because they previously had it, regardless of what became of it. The nazis also never came for black people, Hitler was the only official to shake the hand of Jesse Owens. The communist has always required death, labor until death or simply bodies to fill a space ina gulag camp. The fact is, Comminist where indescriminate in their persecution of their population, anybody in any aspect of society. The most vunerable first, leading upward. The Nazis tried to expell a population, including to the rest Europe and US before they genocided.
@Iron Im sorry I am a bit confused are you saying the way to stop bieng is a capitalist is "liquidation"? Because that is quite wrong.
What about meeting communist ideals requires labor camps?
They were liquidized, the land owning capitialists, even after they surrendered their property.
Im sure in some states they where but stop bieng a cap doesn't require death
Like even now I can sell my buisness and stop bieng a cap
Not under growing Communism, they were executed withiut exception, initially.
And while yes the nazis did do deportation in a practiacal sense if you think the jews are orchastraring the death one race and the browns are their agents and you think thier subhuman and are ready to deport them, death is a acceptable recourse aswell
Source?
What you are asking and stating is unclear to me. To your first part, no it did not require death but it was pushed heavily, if not upon property siezure then soon after as an enemy of the revolution or state.
Which was very similar to who and what the Nazis did to the jews. Target a demographic, take their property then liquidate them.
@Royal Chaotic to an extent this is true. White people are (probably) the most evolved humans and therefore it is natural for them to come to dominate and replace lesser men. My goal is to maximize the well being for the highest amount of people who are part of my folk.
@The Desert Fox VI even if you started with the fundamental axiom maximizing wellbieng for the highest number of white people ethnonationalism would be still irrational since one would want to create some crisper gene where melanin is inhibeted so everyone white, and that would avoid the deaths millions of to be white people, but you belive in "scientific racism" so can we together analyze who brought you to that conclusion that white people are "more evolved" or substantially different from the brow and black people.
Race is more than just skin colour. There's history behind it, not to mention the genetic differences. IQ within a population varies according to heredity. Around 60-80% of IQ is hereditary. That is to say since black people are more stupid now, they will remain so in the next generation *regardless* of enviromental factors. Another example is that of monoamine oxidase A, a protein which increases aggression and which black people have more of.
@The Desert Fox VI I would love to go over the sourcing with you
For the IQ thing, *the Bell Curve* or even just wikipedia. For the protein thing, it's this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_A.
@The Desert Fox VI would you watch a video for me? And could you point me what section in the wiki article it says the have more monoanine?
The bell curve is absolute cringe. Charles Murray doesn't even understand the concept of heritability.