Message from @Royal Chaotic

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2020-03-26 04:18:09 UTC  

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2020-03-27 15:19:09 UTC  

It's cringe^ but a better result than most results of people in this server.

2020-03-27 15:24:17 UTC  

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2020-03-27 15:25:28 UTC  

I cringed.

2020-03-27 15:36:55 UTC  

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2020-03-27 17:50:58 UTC  

The fuq happened?

2020-03-27 17:53:46 UTC  

That doesn't look like marxism-leninism. It looks like national bolshevism.

2020-03-27 18:25:39 UTC  

Communism and natbol still have not been explained to be very different. What are their differences?

2020-03-27 20:23:19 UTC  

Communism culturally far left nazbol culturally far right

2020-03-27 20:37:19 UTC  

question, do we tabulate everyone's political results of the server here? one server im on uses 8values results on several members and we publish the results in bar graphs.

2020-03-27 20:44:16 UTC  

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2020-03-28 04:59:49 UTC  

@Pikeman that’s an oversimplification. „Communism“ is very diverse.

2020-03-28 05:00:57 UTC  

Nazbol is a specific type of „culturally“ far right view (more nationalist than religious/trad right)

2020-03-28 05:13:48 UTC  

How ?

2020-03-28 05:14:14 UTC  

Saying x is right and y is left does not make it easier

2020-03-28 05:14:53 UTC  

I still fail to see how nazism and communism differ besides a handul of moderate things.

2020-03-29 00:58:43 UTC  

lol what

2020-03-29 02:16:48 UTC  

Im asking.

2020-03-29 02:17:42 UTC  

Because i want to know.

2020-03-29 03:19:47 UTC  

Well one is for hierarchy one is not

2020-03-29 03:22:09 UTC  

@Iron nazis = umberto echo facism & Jewish question
Communism = decomodication & worker democracy plus abolishing state

2020-03-29 03:22:21 UTC  

We can break that up into what each work means

2020-03-29 03:25:57 UTC  

The JQ was about to be answered in Communist Russia.

2020-03-29 03:37:23 UTC  

Well do you now know the difference between communism and nazism @Iron

2020-03-29 06:23:12 UTC  

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2020-03-29 11:58:26 UTC  

@Royal Chaotic They have few differences in application, some, not alot. More in theory.

2020-03-29 16:05:17 UTC  

@Iron I would content with that, it's inevitable that nazis will comite genocide, thier irrational bigotry against minorities will only rationally lead to such. Communism has nothing inherent thats leads to genocide or mass death beyond a revolution that is though to be the only way to achieve communism (case study rojova**).

2020-03-29 17:42:08 UTC  

Yes it does, its predicated on class warfare.

2020-03-29 17:59:57 UTC  

@Iron the difference between class and the rest of the lines of oppression is you can stop bieng a capitalist, you can't stop bieng black. I can turn my buisness into a worker owned company and have us elect the manager, my friends can't change thier skin color

2020-03-29 18:01:11 UTC  

Genocide and killing is genocide regardless

2020-03-29 20:17:20 UTC  

@Royal Chaotic what is irrational about ethnocentrism and in-group self interest? Because that's what leads to Ethnonationalism dog

2020-03-29 20:17:37 UTC  

That's why one might want to kill a foreigner

2020-03-29 21:02:31 UTC  

@Iron perhaps I was unclear, while communism certanly applys a class lense of analysis and does not support keeping class, it doesn't like keeping the employer employee model that people like me use, it unlike race can be changed. When the communist regime comes for the capitalist the capitalist can stip bieng a capitalist with out their death ( the buisness is turned into a worker owned entreprise ) when the nazis comes for the black the person can't stop bieng black. Nazis require the death, the communist dont.

2020-03-29 21:03:45 UTC  

@The Desert Fox VI well I presume we are working from the final goal of maximizing wellbeing for highest number concious biengs?

2020-03-29 21:07:20 UTC  

There is no evidence of reliquishibg capital or property was a means to preserve life, they were liquidized because they previously had it, regardless of what became of it. The nazis also never came for black people, Hitler was the only official to shake the hand of Jesse Owens. The communist has always required death, labor until death or simply bodies to fill a space ina gulag camp. The fact is, Comminist where indescriminate in their persecution of their population, anybody in any aspect of society. The most vunerable first, leading upward. The Nazis tried to expell a population, including to the rest Europe and US before they genocided.

2020-03-29 21:20:44 UTC  

@Iron Im sorry I am a bit confused are you saying the way to stop bieng is a capitalist is "liquidation"? Because that is quite wrong.
What about meeting communist ideals requires labor camps?

2020-03-29 21:21:33 UTC  

They were liquidized, the land owning capitialists, even after they surrendered their property.

2020-03-29 21:22:42 UTC  

Im sure in some states they where but stop bieng a cap doesn't require death

2020-03-29 21:24:01 UTC  

Like even now I can sell my buisness and stop bieng a cap

2020-03-29 21:36:02 UTC  

Not under growing Communism, they were executed withiut exception, initially.