Message from @Maksim

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2020-02-07 19:33:25 UTC  

You cannot make controlled expirements for economics

2020-02-07 19:33:28 UTC  

i don't think science is only something that uses the scientific method

2020-02-07 19:33:36 UTC  

Which is why every economist disagrees with eachother

2020-02-07 19:33:38 UTC  

we've had science for much longer than we've had the scientific method

2020-02-07 19:33:59 UTC  

@Draško Both history and economics are not a science

2020-02-07 19:34:19 UTC  

History cannot be regarded as absolutely true

2020-02-07 19:34:21 UTC  

We've had natural philosophy for a long time
which is what we call science now ... kinda

2020-02-07 19:34:24 UTC  

Uh, I mean, we've called things science before the scientific method, doesn't mean those meet our modern standards

2020-02-07 19:34:25 UTC  

Because history is written by the Victor

2020-02-07 19:34:29 UTC  

nothing can be regarded as absolutely true

2020-02-07 19:34:42 UTC  

Cringe

2020-02-07 19:34:44 UTC  

i'd define science as any field of study that strives to provide objective facts and understanding

2020-02-07 19:34:48 UTC  

not cringe, literally true

2020-02-07 19:34:50 UTC  

I will beat up every analytical philosopher

2020-02-07 19:35:15 UTC  

@Draško Objective truths do not exist in economics

2020-02-07 19:35:21 UTC  

Humans cannot understand objective facts so

2020-02-07 19:35:24 UTC  

Supply and Demand are not objective for example

2020-02-07 19:35:27 UTC  

Guess science doesn't real

2020-02-07 19:35:28 UTC  

History isn't always written by the victor

Depends on how much the victor pushes it

2020-02-07 19:35:41 UTC  

i'm sure that there's no objective truths being pushed in economics

2020-02-07 19:35:45 UTC  

@Siegfriedolin That just adds more chaos to the truth

2020-02-07 19:35:54 UTC  

but what is a fact is that there exists a potential best economic system

2020-02-07 19:36:00 UTC  

@Draško Ask that to a free market lunatic

2020-02-07 19:36:04 UTC  

History isn't exactly neat

2020-02-07 19:36:23 UTC  

@Draško Incorrect

2020-02-07 19:36:30 UTC  

on what basis?

2020-02-07 19:36:33 UTC  

Because it would depend on what the national goal is

2020-02-07 19:36:38 UTC  

you're right

2020-02-07 19:36:47 UTC  

but i mean if we ignore morals and everything else

2020-02-07 19:36:59 UTC  

there's an objectivelly system that produces the most revenue when applied

2020-02-07 19:37:01 UTC  

At that point you're ignoring things

2020-02-07 19:37:08 UTC  

Which makes it not objective

2020-02-07 19:37:17 UTC  

Trading one thing in a circle forever

2020-02-07 19:37:22 UTC  

no, i'm not ignoring physical things, i'm ignoring objectives

2020-02-07 19:37:33 UTC  

Which is disingenuous

2020-02-07 19:37:34 UTC  

because obviously economists will also consider morals

2020-02-07 19:37:39 UTC  

not disingenuous

2020-02-07 19:37:43 UTC  

No they don't lmao

2020-02-07 19:37:49 UTC  

We can see that clearly in America

2020-02-07 19:38:05 UTC  

socialism is literally based on the idea that it's moral for the working class to hold the capital

2020-02-07 19:38:20 UTC  

I mean 'economists' will engage in morals along the lines of pushing a liberal humanism as a method of maintaining the capitalist status quo