Ok so what defines immorality?

The people, their cultures, their religions, etc. But murder is the most common immoral thing in all cultures, religions, and all people agree with that, put aside mentally ill people.

And of course sometimes killing is justified.

But the killing which comes with Imperialism isn't.

So is killing actually immoral or not?

It's immoral.

Why

I said why.

No you said that people find it to be immoral

> It's not obvious how killing other people, mentally hurting their society, friends, family, and causing negative feelings to another is a bad thing?

I understand that people are conditioned by their societies to believe in certain ways but I believe the both of us to be able to go above that conditioning and discuss morality objectively

So what makes killing morally wrong?

There is no objective morality, unless we insert the presence of a higher being and its rules.

Right

So imperialism isn't immoral

because morality doesn't exist

And again, I answered that question.

> The people, their cultures, their religions, etc. But murder is the most common immoral thing in all cultures, religions, and all people agree with that, put aside mentally ill people.

It is.

Morality does exist.

Morality being subjective doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Murder is wrong but killing in itself is not always wrong

Ok but without something objective "right" and "wrong" can't exist

It can exist, but it's just subjective.

Just like beauty.

You can't say beauty doesn't exist.

You obviously believe that your morality is true enough that it ought to be followed

So I am simply asking why

I explained why.

No, you didn't.

> It's not obvious how killing other people, mentally hurting their society, friends, family, and causing negative feelings to another is a bad thing?

Stop playing the why game with me.

You think it's common sense but that doesn't explain why a certain act is "wrong"

But you said morality is subjective

Yes.

If I’m an imperialist

In my interpretation of morality, Imperialism is wrong.

So why then should I adopt your view on morality?

I think it’s okay to kill a group in a territory I control is ok

Now which interpretation morality is the best can be concluded by the benefits each one has.

And there’s nothing wrong with that

Because it has many benefits.