Message from @Koninos
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It's not obvious how killing other people, mentally hurting their society, friends, family, and causing negative feelings to another is a bad thing?
@EYEFORKNOWLEDGE156 True.
So it may be obvious to me as a westerner that killing is wrong but in a different context it would not be
It is obviously immoral.
Ok so what defines immorality?
The people, their cultures, their religions, etc. But murder is the most common immoral thing in all cultures, religions, and all people agree with that, put aside mentally ill people.
And of course sometimes killing is justified.
But the killing which comes with Imperialism isn't.
So is killing actually immoral or not?
It's immoral.
Why
I said why.
No you said that people find it to be immoral
> It's not obvious how killing other people, mentally hurting their society, friends, family, and causing negative feelings to another is a bad thing?
I understand that people are conditioned by their societies to believe in certain ways but I believe the both of us to be able to go above that conditioning and discuss morality objectively
So what makes killing morally wrong?
There is no objective morality, unless we insert the presence of a higher being and its rules.
Right
So imperialism isn't immoral
because morality doesn't exist
And again, I answered that question.
> The people, their cultures, their religions, etc. But murder is the most common immoral thing in all cultures, religions, and all people agree with that, put aside mentally ill people.
It is.
Morality does exist.
Morality being subjective doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Murder is wrong but killing in itself is not always wrong
Ok but without something objective "right" and "wrong" can't exist
It can exist, but it's just subjective.
Just like beauty.
You can't say beauty doesn't exist.
You obviously believe that your morality is true enough that it ought to be followed
So I am simply asking why
I explained why.
No, you didn't.
> It's not obvious how killing other people, mentally hurting their society, friends, family, and causing negative feelings to another is a bad thing?
Stop playing the why game with me.
You think it's common sense but that doesn't explain why a certain act is "wrong"
But you said morality is subjective
Yes.
If I’m an imperialist
In my interpretation of morality, Imperialism is wrong.
So why then should I adopt your view on morality?