The murder of humans isn't wrong?

Why do you believe it is?

Europe colonized the entire continent and shit hit the fan when they left

Why do you believe it's not?

it makes people rely on outside help to keep on living

What gives you the right to end the other's life?

think of domesticated pets and how they can't feed themselves

I never said it isn't I just want to know why you believe what you do.

Isn't it obvious? Isn't it common sense?

And why do I need a right to do something? If I am capable is that not enough justification?

Well no not really

Morality can't be tied to common sense because common sense changes

Imperialism was at one time, common sense.

So it's not obvious when you use the current common sense?

Killing in some cases is ok

Ok but what I am saying is that something being obvious doesn't necessarily attach morality to that thing

It's not obvious how killing other people, mentally hurting their society, friends, family, and causing negative feelings to another is a bad thing?

@EYEFORKNOWLEDGE156 True.

So it may be obvious to me as a westerner that killing is wrong but in a different context it would not be

It is obviously immoral.

Ok so what defines immorality?

The people, their cultures, their religions, etc. But murder is the most common immoral thing in all cultures, religions, and all people agree with that, put aside mentally ill people.

And of course sometimes killing is justified.

But the killing which comes with Imperialism isn't.

So is killing actually immoral or not?

It's immoral.

Why

I said why.

No you said that people find it to be immoral

> It's not obvious how killing other people, mentally hurting their society, friends, family, and causing negative feelings to another is a bad thing?

I understand that people are conditioned by their societies to believe in certain ways but I believe the both of us to be able to go above that conditioning and discuss morality objectively

So what makes killing morally wrong?

There is no objective morality, unless we insert the presence of a higher being and its rules.

Right

So imperialism isn't immoral

because morality doesn't exist

And again, I answered that question.

> The people, their cultures, their religions, etc. But murder is the most common immoral thing in all cultures, religions, and all people agree with that, put aside mentally ill people.

It is.

Morality does exist.

Morality being subjective doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Murder is wrong but killing in itself is not always wrong