Other lib left ideologies, decisions are made by local communities through direct democracy or electing people to very specific roles (spokesperson, army general ect), this is opposed to the state where all the decisions are made by a few people who may or may not be elected

Why do you reject methodological individualism as a ""libertarian""

At the end of the day, lib left is against one person having dominance over another

I don't reject it, it's just a different type of libertarian to me

Which is always inevitable

Its not a different type of libertarian

Libertarianism, like authoritarianism are broad categories

Its not an ideology in and of itself, its a tenet of an ideology

its an analysis on how should we establish natural law of man

Libertarianism is not exclusively individualist

Fascists believe it should be done in reference to the collective state of the nation, which is manifest as the state
Communists believe it should be done in reference to materialism

Libertarians believe it should be done in reference to the state of man in absence of all other "entities" and their interventions

Without methodalogical individualism you cannot justify the NAP

Huh

Why

Because only thru methodological individualism is the idea of non intervention derived

Well people tend to voluntarily choose to work as a collective

That's why you give to charity

That's why people work as groups

Ok? I never denied that, so that's quite irrelevant to my point

That's why people join unions

That's not why people join unions lol, but besides the point

They join to work as a collective to strive for better rights

No, they join as a collective not because its a collective but because as a collective they're more efficient at forcing the capitalist to subject to their interests

but again besides the point

I challenge you to justify non intervention without methodological individualism

Go

Well when you're intervening on people's lives, it ends up hurting the collective. Just like the war on drugs harms the collective, or the war in the middle east harmed the collective, or enforcing gender roles or whatever, the collective doesn't get harmed. The only individual rewards I get from ending those things are tax cuts, however, I can acknowledge that those interventions harm the collective so I oppose them

In what way does intervening on individuals lives harm the collective, that's contextual, no?

If the majority of the people adhere to a certain principle X, and the minority adhere to the antithesis of X, the government getting rid of that minority would not really harm the majority which adheres to X

it depends what the individual is doing and how degenerate it is, if it's high degenerative behavior then it's a threat to the collective. less degenerate things aren't much of a threat to the collective *this text will disappear in 5 seconds

authoritarian is bad while libertarian is decent hard question...

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*Are there any conspiracy theories that you believe in personally?*

@everyone

no

yes

no

epstein didn’t kill him self

Yes

are they still conspiracies if they are true?

@Bkoolis Not a conspiracy