Message from @Shaun

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2020-03-17 14:15:04 UTC  

soup is with water

2020-03-18 00:25:58 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖
There were multiple examples of basic steam engines from the Roman Empire. More often than not they were for nothing more than a party trick. If someone decided to put that engine on a wheel or a mill, how would Rome change?

2020-03-18 00:26:09 UTC  

Rome died because of faggots

2020-03-18 00:26:23 UTC  

The industrial revolution would happen obv

2020-03-18 00:26:32 UTC  

Kek

2020-03-18 00:26:37 UTC  

Rome wouldve fallen even faster

2020-03-18 00:26:41 UTC  

I don't think their engines were strong enough for anything major

2020-03-18 00:26:44 UTC  

Wouldn't because slavery prevented the necessary economic pressures that lead to industrialisation

2020-03-18 00:26:46 UTC  

Send pfp rico

2020-03-18 00:27:05 UTC  

Joe, they would've steamrolled right through Scotland.

2020-03-18 00:27:24 UTC  

Large plantations lead to significant stakeholders in cheap human labour not expensive high investment labour saving devices.

Same as the American south

2020-03-18 00:27:41 UTC  

The engine that the Romans would have wouldn't be strong enough for anything drastic

2020-03-18 00:27:42 UTC  

what about in the roman cities?

2020-03-18 00:27:52 UTC  

Also they didn't have good enough metallurgy to do a proper industrialisation

2020-03-18 00:28:11 UTC  

they could have devolped better metallurgy

2020-03-18 00:28:13 UTC  

The urban patricians had plantations

2020-03-18 00:28:16 UTC  

They could have

2020-03-18 00:28:18 UTC  

But didn't

2020-03-18 00:28:22 UTC  

Possibly

2020-03-18 00:28:37 UTC  

the demand created by a steam engine would have driven better metalurgy

2020-03-18 00:28:45 UTC  

Not really

2020-03-18 00:29:16 UTC  

Steam locomotives+road

2020-03-18 00:29:17 UTC  

farming advances would be necessary?

2020-03-18 00:29:22 UTC  

It requires a significant investment from the medium to large stakeholders to do industrialisation, you could still have artisanal high quality metallurgy, they did in the high medeival ages

2020-03-18 00:29:28 UTC  

@Asdrubal =choo choo train

2020-03-18 00:29:33 UTC  

Sure, but the initial investment would never be fielded

2020-03-18 00:29:52 UTC  

Needs to be profitable every step of the way or for someone with enough power to force it through to a seen profitable end

2020-03-18 00:29:53 UTC  

@Joe The Communist yes, train go choo choo

2020-03-18 00:29:57 UTC  

whee

2020-03-18 00:30:07 UTC  

Rome didn't have a seen profitable end and slavery prevented it being profitable short term

2020-03-18 00:30:27 UTC  

but a steam engine would have made up some of the work

2020-03-18 00:30:33 UTC  

Idk it would change that much.

2020-03-18 00:30:42 UTC  

"Why didnt they put slaves in the factories?" They did lmao

2020-03-18 00:30:53 UTC  

Industrial revolution was a lot more things than steam machines.

2020-03-18 00:30:57 UTC  

and it could spur more interest in making shit

2020-03-18 00:31:04 UTC  

Theoretically yes

2020-03-18 00:31:09 UTC  

But you could get a steam engine

2020-03-18 00:31:13 UTC  

Or you could get 10 more slaves

2020-03-18 00:31:19 UTC  

And guarantee a profit

2020-03-18 00:31:31 UTC  

steam engines dont revolt

2020-03-18 00:31:32 UTC  

And once you have the steam engine you've developed its limited in use