Message from @Sentient23
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you are locking them to yourself
a stoic person is still angry but doesn't directly act on it
also your wrong you can face pain while displaying it
No, that comes through facing the pain, it comes naturally. It's not forced, it comes naturally.
Stop saying that Stoicism is about bottling emotions, That's clearly not what Stoicism is about.
that is not what I said that time
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by the definition of stoicism, "The endurance of pain or hardship without the display of emotions and without complain"
that sounds exactly like bottling them up
that doesn't even sound like facing emotions
Okay first of all, that definition isn't entirely true, because a Stoic starts off by facing his pain instead of avoiding it. So every time he is in pain, he faces it. Now the more you do that, the more insignificant the pain is to you. And the more insignificant the pain becomes to you, your need to display your emotions becomes insignificant as well. And that's the point where Stoicism says that, when pain is insignificant to you, and you don't need to display it, then you just don't display it.
That isn't bottling up emotions, because it's like bottling up air - bottling up something you don't care for
part of being human is feeling pain
It basically becomes kind of like your "comfort zone"
pain is an important learning tool
Its not about becoming numb to it
it is irresponsible to just throw it out the window and disregard it
When it becomes your comfort zone, you're numb to it.
Not necessarily
Pain isn't necessary.
pain is what connects us to other people, when people are in pain they grow closer
It's just that you know what to do when you're in such a situation, instead of whining about it and being the virgin man of inaction, you know how to "get thru it"
it is inhuman to just "not feel pain"
Why connect through pain when you can connect eith other people through many other virtues that don't even harm you?
@Sentient23 True, perhaps I didn't put it right, but personally if I know how to deal with pain, after so many times that I've been in such situations, I'm sort of numb to it. Not entirely, of course, but the more you deal with it, the less it affects you.
Yeah I'd agree with that
when you feel pain you can help relate to other people in your same circumstance
That's unnecessary.
Not necessarily a good thing since you can’t connect to people
If you need a connection with one or more people, then connect through other virtues.
The point of stoicism is that you won't really need that "emotional comfort" when you get in such a situation
From a Christian standpoint, you most likely won’t get into heaven if you can’t connect to people