Message from @Ater Votum
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for many centuries
i mean of course you can say the execution was wrong
but if you argue like that saying that everything that is good is only what god proposes then that makes sense
and obviously a monarchy is the way to go
Yes, so my question is, if your own worldview asserts that monarchy is a superior option, and a more moral option, why don't you adhere to it?
The Bible doesn't really prescribe a form of government
Incorrect, verses incoming
well as it seems im not as christian as i thought i would be
Deuteronomy 17:14-20
Romans 13:1-9
i dont feel comfortable simply arguing with what god proposes as right and moral the be that and as such we would need a monarchy strictly built on those rules
1 Peter 2:17
@Ater Votum Well do you not believe that the bible is divine revelation?
one good thing about the system on a purely objective level is that it always follows the bible and if the monarch wants to deviate from it he wont be listened to replaced by someone actually following it and thus it would be a very safe system so i guess it doesn't sound bad after all
i dont know enough about religion to really make a decision about it
@Ater Votum start praying the rosary, and pray for the grace of your faith
it seems like you're deviating from faith, pray my friend
i will try to
Do it on the daily basis, if you truly seek the truth, god will supply you with it
i used to pray every evening when i was younger i dont know it somehow got lost over time
surely
i started reading the bible too when i was younger too but i dont think i got very far actually i wasnt the biggest reader back then
@Sentient23 The Romans passage is more "Respect authority" rather than prescribing monarchy per se
conetxtually they were speaking of the monarch
So if a monarch is tyrannical or corrupt, then should Christians not rebel against said monarch?
@Sentient23 it is not the government's job to enforce the bibles morals
except in the case of public decency because that is a bit different
Of course not. Again if you actually read the context, that concern is answered
Why cherry pick where you apply Christian morality and where you not apply Christian morality? Which criteria is being used for when its okay to apply and when it isn't? And why?
I'm not Christian
and I think religion should mostly stay out of legislation
because if you do this then you isolate other religions
You said that there would be circumstances in which Christian morality would be enforced?
when did I say that
"except in the case of public decency"
that has nothing to do with Christian morals
I just think that children shouldn't see grown men naked
Then why say "except in such and such cases" when you previously said "the government shouldnt enforce bibles morals"
because that is an exception
and because it harms other citizens