i dont know enough about religion to really make a decision about it

@Ater Votum start praying the rosary, and pray for the grace of your faith

it seems like you're deviating from faith, pray my friend

i will try to

Do it on the daily basis, if you truly seek the truth, god will supply you with it

i used to pray every evening when i was younger i dont know it somehow got lost over time

i should start reading the bible

surely

i started reading the bible too when i was younger too but i dont think i got very far actually i wasnt the biggest reader back then

@Sentient23 The Romans passage is more "Respect authority" rather than prescribing monarchy per se

conetxtually they were speaking of the monarch

So if a monarch is tyrannical or corrupt, then should Christians not rebel against said monarch?

@Sentient23 it is not the government's job to enforce the bibles morals

except in the case of public decency because that is a bit different

Of course not. Again if you actually read the context, that concern is answered

Why cherry pick where you apply Christian morality and where you not apply Christian morality? Which criteria is being used for when its okay to apply and when it isn't? And why?

I'm not Christian

and I think religion should mostly stay out of legislation

because if you do this then you isolate other religions

You said that there would be circumstances in which Christian morality would be enforced?

when did I say that

"except in the case of public decency"

that has nothing to do with Christian morals

I just think that children shouldn't see grown men naked

Then why say "except in such and such cases" when you previously said "the government shouldnt enforce bibles morals"

because that is an exception

and because it harms other citizens

Why is that an exception?

because it can mentally scar children

So?

I don't want children to be mentally scarred

That's all

I am have lax views on what is allowed and what isn't but atleast do it with some pants on for the love of god

You can't justify it without religion, which is the point

yes you can

you can say how it harmfully affects children

that has nothing to do with religion

yes but you cant explain why that in and of itself is bad fundamentally speaking

because mental health is important

why should i suppress my pleasurie urges just because some kid willl be scared? At the end of the day, its just two pieces of meat rubbing against one another, in which one piece of meat has a chemical react in a certain way, and the other also has a chemical react in a certain way?

because mental health is fuckin important