All without faith is sin

I don’t even really care about right or left economically.

I think Judaism could function within the right, but actually Judaism, not the practices of the sick race cult that’s entranced the world we live in

So long as they are traditional, order-driven, they are on the right track.

Economic policy is a symptom of social politics

ill take a NazBol any day before some libertarian

Economic politics is a sin of capitalism

Technically, you can’t have NazBol, you can have Nationalist Socialism

Since Bolshevism’s root ideologies are internationalism and worker’s revolutions and anarchism.

@Eoppa My point is that a Christian's primary duty is to spread the word of truth and live in faith and that so long as we live to these ends we are fulfilling what Christ expects of us.

This is a classic Motte and Bailey

So even if Christians are not working towards having a state, as long as they fulfill the great commission and are remaining faithful, they are doing well.

```I disagree that we have any imperative to establish a state```

You are defending something much weaker than what you claimed

How so?

We have a moral obligation still. There is a hierarchy of charity, but that is a red herring.

We have certain responsibilities as Christians, establishing a state is not one.

Except that is heresy

And until you debate me on Catholicism this is true

We have a moral obligation only if God is not enforcing His will through what ever state exists already

We have a moral obligation at all times to govern based on Christs principles.

The state doesn't stop at the president, the Father, the localities, etc

That is assuming a Christian is in power and I would agree

Assuming a non Christian is in power it's still true

So how do you intend to explain to an atheist king why he should adhere to the bible?

A non Christian in power will go to hell, and will not lead goodly

You'd have to evangelize him

Of course?

Yeah

How does this change what I say?

What do you mean?

I don't think we disagree on as much as you think

```I disagree that we have any imperative to establish a state```

Alright

So

Where is this imperative?

In the magisterium

Where?

In the magisterium

lol

Okay, so the magisterium is recorded in the catechism is it not?