Message from @Eoppa

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2020-01-16 02:05:17 UTC  

If it takes everything in act, it would take all worlds where there also is potency into account too

2020-01-16 02:06:40 UTC  

Is what you're saying that in a universe 1, a coffee is hot, but in universe 2 a cup of coffee is cold, and within universe 1 that coffee is potentially cold? Is that what you mean by different variations of acts while some things remaining in potency

2020-01-16 02:35:22 UTC  

I mean in U1, Coffee is 31 degrees U2, Coffee is 32 degrees, and so forth. Or more relevant to my point, let's say an object can move X to Y or X to Z, etc. None of these can be put together into one meta present

2020-01-16 02:35:33 UTC  

I'll leave my comment about potency out for now

2020-01-16 02:38:02 UTC  

Why can they not?

2020-01-16 03:03:25 UTC  

Because two objects cant occupy the same space

2020-01-16 03:03:45 UTC  

You do realize that makes literally 0 sense right lol

2020-01-16 03:04:14 UTC  

We're talking about seperate universes, they're not occupying same spaces

2020-01-16 03:04:36 UTC  

Then this meta present seems very superficial if it is in no way real

2020-01-16 03:05:18 UTC  

When did i say it was not real? I never said that two objects occupy the same space, I said what the multi verse theory says, which is that there are multiple different universe which are identical but peculiar in some ways

2020-01-16 03:06:13 UTC  

They are not just peculiar in some ways, either it's exhaustive of all potentials or not

2020-01-16 03:07:20 UTC  

Yes they are, and since its an infinite number of universes, all potentials which exist within universe 1 are actualized in universe 2, etc

2020-01-16 03:08:22 UTC  

Yeah, and what I'm saying is if you try to superimpose that into 1 reality you get contradictions and incoherency

2020-01-16 03:09:06 UTC  

How?

2020-01-16 03:09:15 UTC  

What do you mean by 1 reality?

2020-01-16 03:09:42 UTC  

The meta present

2020-01-16 03:10:07 UTC  

I don't think you have the same conception i have of meta present

2020-01-16 03:11:17 UTC  

Probably not

2020-01-16 03:12:20 UTC  

I don't mean that we combine all things from all universes into a single universe, this of course leads to contradictions such as infinite number of things residing in a same place
What i mean by super present, is simply this abstract frame of time from which everything is in actuality and nothing is in potency

2020-01-16 03:13:20 UTC  

Its hard to explain

2020-01-16 03:16:50 UTC  

Well the problem is there isn't 1 act

2020-01-16 03:20:51 UTC  

Why is that a problem?

2020-01-16 19:47:45 UTC  

you need to go to church more often

2020-01-16 20:08:57 UTC  

It's a problem because if there are different ways of actualizing something, there isn't just "in act"

2020-01-16 20:25:02 UTC  

Elaborate?

2020-01-16 20:26:26 UTC  

You can be in act in way Y or way Z, there isn't only one way to be in act, so there would need to be infinite meta presents as well, which defeats the purpose

2020-01-16 20:27:23 UTC  

No that single meta present encompasses all infinite non meta presents which exist simultaniously

2020-01-16 21:47:31 UTC  

Then the metapresent is illusionary

2020-01-16 21:47:37 UTC  

Not vice versa

2020-01-16 21:48:05 UTC  

And that doesn't answer my criticism

2020-01-16 21:48:43 UTC  

There are infinite ways to have everything actual

2020-01-16 22:20:37 UTC  

What's the server stance on Pagans and Occultists?

2020-01-16 22:21:49 UTC  

cool

2020-01-16 22:21:54 UTC  

What's your stance

2020-01-16 22:21:55 UTC  
2020-01-16 22:22:09 UTC  

I am Pagans and occultists

2020-01-16 22:22:37 UTC  

Same

2020-01-16 22:22:44 UTC  

Based

2020-01-16 22:22:54 UTC  

What's your ethnos

2020-01-16 22:23:03 UTC  

Hungary?

2020-01-16 22:23:11 UTC  

Why Hungary?