Message from @Valkindir

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2020-01-20 21:09:58 UTC  

naw.

2020-01-20 21:10:29 UTC  

>It's a gay argument because I can't refute it

2020-01-20 21:10:30 UTC  

try working with people who have severe mental illness and come back to me when you realise that perception dictates above all

2020-01-20 21:10:42 UTC  

You can't fight subjectivity

2020-01-20 21:10:54 UTC  

There are thousands of ways to refute the argument

2020-01-20 21:10:55 UTC  

try working with people who think the FBI or CIA or MI5 are out to murder them for some fucked up irrational reason, it's all down to perception

2020-01-20 21:11:03 UTC  

But arguing with you fucks is exhausting

2020-01-20 21:11:33 UTC  

So in the simplest sense, i will not argue because i have better things to achieve than argue with unrealistic people.

2020-01-20 21:11:35 UTC  

no wonder yer name is mongolite

2020-01-20 21:11:42 UTC  

But you keep doing it and you keep putting out non points

2020-01-20 22:57:30 UTC  

What even is the point

2020-01-20 23:01:37 UTC  

Like of the argument or in general

2020-01-20 23:06:29 UTC  

@Hiertebrand Bro, you're not submitting that perspective can be wrong. If you hand all authority over to an agent and it is misused, then you are presupposing that something is dictating above and beyond the perspective of the agent.

2020-01-20 23:07:24 UTC  

i never said perspective cannot be wrong

2020-01-20 23:07:45 UTC  

ive had delusions due to mental illness, if anyone knows about fucked perceptions it's me

2020-01-20 23:09:11 UTC  

Nah, you said, "try working with people who have severe mental illness and come back to me when you realise that perception dictates above all". I'm just saying you aren't *submitting* that perspective can be wrong when you say that. As for what you just said, I hope you all the best.

2020-01-20 23:09:31 UTC  

<:Shrug:232210564753915925>

2020-01-20 23:09:33 UTC  

Thanks, I guess.

2020-01-20 23:12:24 UTC  

The other thing you said, that it was "all down to perception", is a misalignment with other things you put out there. Which is part of why Mongolite wasn't about it, I suppose. Didn't seem like you were in such fundamental disagreement as the convo developed to. There's muh piece

2020-01-20 23:13:03 UTC  

i have no idea what's even going on right now, so i'll just agree with you on that

2020-01-20 23:13:30 UTC  

unfiltered nosiness

2020-01-20 23:22:04 UTC  

Mongolite doesn't like non-christian opinions but can't argue his points properly is his big disagreement

2020-01-21 01:37:42 UTC  

Fuck off cunt

2020-01-21 01:38:02 UTC  

I just don’t argue with fucks who aren’t worth my time

2020-01-21 01:38:28 UTC  

@Doktor Goon were you arguing a variant of the is-ought gap or something?

2020-01-21 01:52:58 UTC  

What do you mean?

2020-01-21 01:54:16 UTC  

You are talking about not being able to escape subjectivity

2020-01-21 01:54:22 UTC  

Yes

2020-01-21 01:54:30 UTC  

I guess

2020-01-21 01:55:55 UTC  

Do you think that is inescapable? That conception only is applicable under existentialism/materialism

2020-01-21 01:57:04 UTC  

Being subjective?

2020-01-21 01:57:23 UTC  

Of course it's inescapable

2020-01-21 01:57:46 UTC  

Everyone is an individual and views things in seperate lights

2020-01-21 01:58:29 UTC  

That has no bearing on reality

2020-01-21 01:59:21 UTC  

What does have a bearing on reality

2020-01-21 01:59:45 UTC  

Reality is objective sure but how you interpret the reality is subjective

2020-01-21 02:01:13 UTC  

You can have subjective interpretations that doesn't mean there are no ways of obtaining truth.

2020-01-21 02:01:23 UTC  

I never said that

2020-01-21 02:01:46 UTC  

You claimed it's inescapable

2020-01-21 02:02:06 UTC  

If we can ground objectivity then it is

2020-01-21 02:03:11 UTC  

But is that something we can do