What I'm saying is it's impossible if Catholicism is true

If

Yes

And there have been no heretical infallible statements in church history

the thing that i don't understand here is how do you differentiate between infallible claims

and fallible ones

The church has defined them (orthos have bigger trouble identifying ecumenical councils)

could you give me examples

or just the definitions themselves

I am beginning to understand why there have been so many wars between Christian denominations

Ex Cathedra statements for example

There have been very few

> ur going to hell prot
> let's test that theory I'll take you with me

@Eoppa btw what the hell was the anti pope stuff

And if the current pope is fake where is the anti Pope

Or the legitimate one

There is no Pope right now

I'm a sedevacantist

could you explain to me

@Eoppa Why has no one bothered to eleect a real pope

when the current clergy became illegitimate

and by what action

this is what i don't get

Vatican II

Atleast during the anti pope era they had the balls to have a real claimed pope

and what decision there goes against catholic doctrine

That's because only the Pope was anathema back then

@Maksim there are some illegitimate splinter catholic churches around today

@Draško salvation outside the church, baptism of desire, invalidated the mass, etc

So why have you not formed an entirely new clergy outside Vatican or just occupy Vatican

how is salvation outside the church non-doctrinal?

Because there are still valid hierarchies

It was infallibly declared heretical

when

This is where Catholics fuck up

"you can't be saved if ur not Catholic"

The amount of ego in that sentence

Oof

it makes sense

what i'm talking about here are people who don't know Christ

Orthodox also believe that there is no salvation outside the church