Because there are still valid hierarchies

It was infallibly declared heretical

when

This is where Catholics fuck up

"you can't be saved if ur not Catholic"

The amount of ego in that sentence

Oof

it makes sense

what i'm talking about here are people who don't know Christ

Orthodox also believe that there is no salvation outside the church

Define no salvation outside the church

but people who don't know and don't comprehend the Church can be saved

that's the ortho position

```Pope Leo XII (A.D. 1823 – 1829): “We profess that there is no salvation outside the Church. …For the Church is the pillar and ground of the truth. With reference to those words Augustine says: `If any man be outside the Church he will be excluded from the number of sons, and will not have God for Father since he has not the Church for mother.'” (Encyclical, Ubi Primum)```

catholics believe that absolutely nobody outside the church can be saved

It's one of the most defined doctrines

Muh history

bro.......

stop being a lutheran

@Draško cringe

the bible you're using was compiled by people in the fourth century

was that not history?

So?

how is that not history

You're appealing to history as well Maksim

I literally just said I don't accept history as a legitimate argument for faith

how come

I literally do not give a fuck if it was compiled in the 4th century

when people in history constructed our scripture

through divine grace

Don't care

that's an oxymoron

Irrelevant to me

Not in Bible not valid

You deny the world God created for you

You deny God

Wrong

anon, is the gospel of peter a legitimate document? or is it apocryphal?

God specifically gave us the world for us to know and to observe

Is it in the Bible @Draško

no