as I said it is more complicated, and so far you have not put up an ACTUAL rebuttal

if the guy is struggling with something personal don't bug him about it

all you have done is tried to derail

if he's an atheist and willing to have a discussion with you then respect that he's even doing it

@moira it's because he knows he's wrong and on full damage control. this is how he argued yesterday as well

maybe mormonism was able to bring itself up in uneducated 18th century america, but whenever they argue with a theologian of another denom they don't stand a chance

@Draško I've already debunked that Revelations bit. You want I should do the leg work and provide actual citations as to which book was written last and when they were all gathered and arranged? Without looking, I think one of Paul's letters was last to be written. Might've been 2nd corinthians. Just ask and I'll research.

feel free to debunk it again

if you already wrote the debunking you can just copy your text

what does that have to do with anything?

are you denying that the revelation of John is a legitimate book?

or are you saying John had a demonic revelation?

@moira it's not really complicated. Atheist = without (a) God (theist). What you are is agnostic. Without (a) knowledge (gnostic). In very brief translation.

okay, nevermind i get your point

i just remembered

Mormons believe that the original bible was edited

and that joseph smith was just bringing us the original version

you're not very clear on your points

people are more complicated than that

and we already settled this

@Draško the only struggle I have, is maintaining a dignified debate rather than lashing out in a string of such egregious insults it'll likely get me banned from this group because you two are so densely ignorant it's f*ck all annoying.

move onto the points I presented

stop deraling

> Mormons believe that the original bible was edited
@Draško even protestants believe that. Nice spotlight fallacy there.

what

how is that a spotlight fallacy

Hello

i literally didn't understand what you were talking about, because when you talk you're always super ambiguous and hard to understand

@moira I'm looking, I'm looking. Not seeing anything you've said which I've not replied on.

and then it came to me that mormons believe the original bible was edited

No way I'm going to read this whole conversation

i just remembered and then understood what you were trying to say

that wasn't a rebuttal

You're actually arguing about whether the original Bible was edited ?! Seriously !?! Of course it's been edited. Everybody thinks it's been edited. Even the Catholic Church thinks it's been edited. Every time it is translated it is edited. Translating is editing

@Draško#963 what's there not to understand? Protestants even believe the Bible has been altered. So to merely pin that to Mormons is a fallacy.

@lemiwinks what the hell are you on about

@Gothik Extravaganza "Jesus Christ stopped living an earthly life LONG before Joseph Smith
and if he came to see Joseph Smith that would be the second coming, no? so then why did none of the other events prophesized to happen along with the second coming never happen?"

the catholic church believes that the original bible has been edited?

lol, citation please

you have to be retarded not to realize that translation is editing that's why the Catholic Church murdered people for translating it

Everybody that tried to translate it out of Latin got murdered for hundreds of years by the Catholic Church