Message from @Draško
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Conversions to Islam weren't rare
this man converted while muhammad was still alive. this religion had no legitimate ground
how is that not odd
Do you not understand how the growth of Islam was back then? Muhammad expanded it at insane speeds, people were rather charismatic at that time, they followed expanding movements.
Muhammad was a powerful warlord who by that time conquered a ton, of course it had ground
you're not very familiar with early islamic history it seems
nothing you said is particularly wrong but you do seem to have a incorrect underlying narrative
islam expanded immensely at first - with the arabs
most people didn't become muslims until centuries after, even in caliphatian lands
they had to cope and say that zoroastrians were people of the book
because iran was too zoroastrian and they couldn't kill them all
why did you send me this map?
I'm not saying the Islamic world stopped expanding after Muhammad
I'm saying it was clearly an established thing
i didn't think you were saying that
Then why did you bother with that response
i said that this religion was bullshit in the eyes of the outside world at this point in time
Not really
This was at the end of Muhammads life
they had conquered west arabia and oman
Yes
these regions are shitholes now, let alone then
the fucking ethiopians conquered arabia before them
The ethiopians are based.
Sure?
I don't know how you think this is rare though
the whole thing you tried to prove with the posting of that map is that islam was a powerful and legitimate religion at that point
It unequivocally was
it wasn't. it was still a fringe movement, especially for someone who isn't a middle easterner
You assert this with no reason
i gave you the reasons
You did not, you said he conquered a shithole, the entire world was a shithole at that point
no?
Compared to today yes
the desert was always poorer than everywhere that's... well, not desert. lol.
read yazdegerd III's letter to umar
civilized people literally regarded arabs as lizard eating sand dwelling shitskins
This is the same as any civilization regarding any other civilization. This still isn't even on the level of anecdotal evidence, it's entirely speculation. When you say "I can't explain this" it's simple, he just converted.
Every religion has this story