Message from @Eoppa

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2020-02-20 21:50:06 UTC  

"how can you explain this legend bro???"

2020-02-20 21:50:20 UTC  

The actual part about the convertion is heavily different every time its told from what I see

2020-02-20 21:50:50 UTC  

that's from oral islamic tradition

2020-02-20 21:51:25 UTC  

but hindu texts verify that some people saw the splitting, apparently

2020-02-20 21:51:50 UTC  

Hindu texts verify his conversion, not the splitting I believe

2020-02-20 21:53:21 UTC  

it's still incredibly odd

2020-02-20 21:53:26 UTC  

Not really

2020-02-20 21:53:41 UTC  

Conversions to Islam weren't rare

2020-02-20 21:53:52 UTC  

this man converted while muhammad was still alive. this religion had no legitimate ground

2020-02-20 21:53:54 UTC  

how is that not odd

2020-02-20 21:54:43 UTC  

Do you not understand how the growth of Islam was back then? Muhammad expanded it at insane speeds, people were rather charismatic at that time, they followed expanding movements.

2020-02-20 21:55:30 UTC  

Muhammad was a powerful warlord who by that time conquered a ton, of course it had ground

2020-02-20 21:55:53 UTC  

you're not very familiar with early islamic history it seems

2020-02-20 21:56:07 UTC  

nothing you said is particularly wrong but you do seem to have a incorrect underlying narrative

2020-02-20 21:56:21 UTC  

islam expanded immensely at first - with the arabs

2020-02-20 21:56:38 UTC  

most people didn't become muslims until centuries after, even in caliphatian lands

2020-02-20 21:56:57 UTC  

they had to cope and say that zoroastrians were people of the book

2020-02-20 21:57:08 UTC  

because iran was too zoroastrian and they couldn't kill them all

2020-02-20 21:58:42 UTC  

why did you send me this map?

2020-02-20 21:58:46 UTC  

I'm not saying the Islamic world stopped expanding after Muhammad

2020-02-20 21:58:56 UTC  

I'm saying it was clearly an established thing

2020-02-20 21:58:59 UTC  

i didn't think you were saying that

2020-02-20 21:59:10 UTC  

Then why did you bother with that response

2020-02-20 21:59:16 UTC  

i said that this religion was bullshit in the eyes of the outside world at this point in time

2020-02-20 21:59:27 UTC  

Not really

2020-02-20 21:59:41 UTC  

This was at the end of Muhammads life

2020-02-20 21:59:46 UTC  

yes

2020-02-20 21:59:56 UTC  

they had conquered west arabia and oman

2020-02-20 22:00:01 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-20 22:00:07 UTC  

these regions are shitholes now, let alone then

2020-02-20 22:00:20 UTC  

the fucking ethiopians conquered arabia before them

2020-02-20 22:01:53 UTC  

The ethiopians are based.

2020-02-20 22:01:57 UTC  

Sure?

2020-02-20 22:02:07 UTC  

I don't know how you think this is rare though

2020-02-20 22:03:43 UTC  

the whole thing you tried to prove with the posting of that map is that islam was a powerful and legitimate religion at that point

2020-02-20 22:03:59 UTC  

It unequivocally was

2020-02-20 22:04:06 UTC  

it wasn't. it was still a fringe movement, especially for someone who isn't a middle easterner

2020-02-20 22:04:16 UTC  

You assert this with no reason

2020-02-20 22:04:22 UTC  

i gave you the reasons

2020-02-20 22:04:41 UTC  

You did not, you said he conquered a shithole, the entire world was a shithole at that point