Message from @Eoppa
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Sure?
I don't know how you think this is rare though
the whole thing you tried to prove with the posting of that map is that islam was a powerful and legitimate religion at that point
It unequivocally was
it wasn't. it was still a fringe movement, especially for someone who isn't a middle easterner
You assert this with no reason
i gave you the reasons
You did not, you said he conquered a shithole, the entire world was a shithole at that point
no?
Compared to today yes
the desert was always poorer than everywhere that's... well, not desert. lol.
read yazdegerd III's letter to umar
civilized people literally regarded arabs as lizard eating sand dwelling shitskins
This is the same as any civilization regarding any other civilization. This still isn't even on the level of anecdotal evidence, it's entirely speculation. When you say "I can't explain this" it's simple, he just converted.
Every religion has this story
yes, i can't explain why he converted
what convinced him
It was a charismatic movement
Why did the entire area convert?
which entire area?
i'd reckon either because of legitimate zelaoutry or political reasons
muhammad had a sort of "kill all pagans policy"
Mass convertion tends to lend credibility to charismatic, that's what I'm saying
when he destroyed the idols in mecca and nothing bad happened i'm sure that left an impression on the pagan arabs
If all of India converted, I'd possibly believe it
sure, but this dude was a king in hindu india
It was literally only him who converted
if all of india converted i'd definitely believe it, lol
India had such a large population, some others must have seen it no?
his astronomers saw it supposedly
and then when muslim traders came to malabar they explained what happened to the king
so he went to visit muhammad for himself and converted
That's not a minor thing, it was only the king and his close men according to the tradition. I'm asking for something substantial outside of the oral tradition
idk man, it's pretty scary to me
What could have happened is he heard of a great conqueror, on his way there someone explained that the moon split according to Muhammad, and all of this converted him.
That story has the same backing as this
>on his way there someone explained that the moon split according to Muhammad
but if he didn't see him split it this would disprove islam, no?
Why would it disprove Islam?
The entire world didn't see it split