Message from @ComradeChaos

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2020-03-04 21:37:27 UTC  

I know there isn't nothing in the void and if you listened to me I already said that things in a state of not being are in a higher state of potential energy.

2020-03-04 21:37:56 UTC  

God lacks nothing

2020-03-04 21:38:03 UTC  

You are claiming God changes

2020-03-04 21:38:21 UTC  

That you can "bring him out of the void" using material means.

2020-03-04 21:38:31 UTC  

I'm claiming that God isn't on this side of the veil: we talk to emanations of it but not the source.

2020-03-04 21:39:04 UTC  

Which is why god is the father, son and holy spirit but the father is not the son nor is the holy spirit the father.

2020-03-04 21:40:31 UTC  

God is absolutely simple, you cannot introduce parts into the Godhead. When we say something is an emanation, we do not say it can now be moved. They are consubstantial.

2020-03-04 22:02:19 UTC  

If you believe the demiurge is God I suppose that is true

2020-03-04 22:34:55 UTC  

@ComradeChaos so what is your model?

2020-03-04 22:36:29 UTC  

i've never heard of this sefirot thing, is it epistemological, like kant's categories? or an expanded trinity? spinoza thought there were infinite attributes to God beyond matter and consciousness, is this just saying 10 instead of 2?

2020-03-04 22:37:44 UTC  

wasn't it related to Judaism?

2020-03-04 22:38:17 UTC  

yeah, but seems like rabbinic which i don't know much about

2020-03-04 22:38:37 UTC  

sounds complicated

2020-03-05 10:37:57 UTC  

The Kabbalah is a fantastic system of metaphysical abstractions. I highly recommend you read Dion Fortune's Mystical Qabalah

2020-03-05 10:59:00 UTC  

wait, "astrology and tarot"? that's not jewish

2020-03-05 11:14:29 UTC  

is kabbalah (still) considered a jewish heresy? is it a form of negative theology?

2020-03-05 13:36:52 UTC  

@splitprimary it's also been used by hermetic and Thelemic mystics, not to mention the Catholics

2020-03-05 15:02:36 UTC  

Kabbalah isn't one thing, but if you want the source text in English
https://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/zdm/index.htm

2020-03-05 15:09:54 UTC  
2020-03-05 15:11:18 UTC  
2020-03-05 15:38:45 UTC  

^ jewish satanist pagan propaganda, don't read

2020-03-05 15:44:45 UTC  

The last one is literally Christian though @Sentient23

2020-03-05 15:45:45 UTC  

Was it by a catholic?

2020-03-05 15:47:25 UTC  

It was by a converso who prosyletized against Judaism

2020-03-05 15:47:58 UTC  

Need I repeat myself?

2020-03-05 15:48:02 UTC  

Was it by a catholic?

2020-03-05 15:50:22 UTC  

>>We see that this opinion regarding the Trinity and Incarnation contradict the official dogma of the Catholic Church at the time of Abner.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/abner-burgos/

Technically but they didn't treat him like he was.

2020-03-05 15:50:38 UTC  

It's more accurate to say he was his own Christian

2020-03-05 15:50:49 UTC  

He rejected Catholic Dogma?

2020-03-05 15:50:58 UTC  

So he's not a catholic

2020-03-05 15:50:59 UTC  

He contradicted some of it, yes

2020-03-05 15:51:08 UTC  

Whether he contradicted anything is debatable

2020-03-05 15:51:15 UTC  

The point is he's not a catholic

2020-03-05 15:51:18 UTC  

Therefore not a Christian

2020-03-05 15:51:20 UTC  

Point proven

2020-03-05 15:51:56 UTC  

Imagine thinking the Gucci church is actually God's kingdom on earth

2020-03-05 15:52:31 UTC  

Imagine being a pagan larping as a Christian