Message from @Lekka

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2020-03-15 15:04:20 UTC  

It's a magical framework that is built on the presupposition that we were created by a God that loves us and wants us to create.

2020-03-15 15:04:33 UTC  

Yes, the Ptolemaic period.

2020-03-15 15:05:34 UTC  

I've read magic is part of Hermeticism. Is that how it is practiced? I think there is a difference between the ancient and modern Hermeticism.

2020-03-15 15:06:30 UTC  

@Greg Noir The difference being secular science was divorced from theology. Principally Hermetic philosophy lines up with quantum physics

2020-03-15 15:07:01 UTC  

I'll read on these articles.

2020-03-15 15:08:39 UTC  

Perception affects the superposition of objects in reality. There also seems to be non local observer dependence on super positions as well which implies reality is cognitive

2020-03-15 15:10:54 UTC  

Here's the basics of hermeticism from the perspective of the Kybalion (the actual Hermetic texts are known as the Corpus Hermeticum"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587029563863990282/688766181993349145/Ancient-Future-7-Principles-Glyphs1.png

2020-03-15 15:12:51 UTC  

I've got a library of books on this stuff that I'll send your way

2020-03-15 15:12:52 UTC  

Ah, this is what you mean by the physics?

2020-03-15 15:13:04 UTC  

This is a very simplified version of it, but essentially

2020-03-15 15:13:27 UTC  

It is a way of understanding life through a set of laws then.

2020-03-15 15:14:57 UTC  

Essentially, you'd be surprised how many of the "Islamic scientists" who muslims hold up as testament to their scientific achievements actually were hermeticists.

2020-03-15 15:16:04 UTC  

I learned in HS that much of Greek philosophy was preserved by Muslims and brought to Europe by trade. Before Mohammed there were the Mandaeans, a Gnostic religion still existing in present day Iraq.

2020-03-15 15:18:50 UTC  

Now you've given me something to look up, I had never heard of this group before, though I am familiar with gnostics. I find it interesting that they still maintain the title system of rabbi though

2020-03-15 15:21:20 UTC  

I find it interesting that they integrated baptism as a ritual. I took a quick glance at their main holy book, Ginza Rba, and it seems to be some metaphysical polytheism in which their gods embody aspects of the spiritual world.

2020-03-15 15:31:34 UTC  

>The name 'Mandaean' is said to come from the Aramaic manda meaning "knowledge", as does Greek gnosis
>According to most scholars, Mandaeaism originated sometime in the first three centuries AD, in either southwestern Mesopotamia or the Syro-Palestinian area.[6] However, some scholars take the view that Mandaeanism is older and dates from pre-Christian times.[7]
ok epic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaeism

2020-03-15 15:32:05 UTC  

Also @Greg Noir I posted some stuff in <#587028275918929925> that may interest you

2020-03-15 19:01:18 UTC  

im happy that this went from atheists vs christians and some denomination debates to a satanist schizo posting

2020-03-15 19:02:15 UTC  

@OrthoGoat i dont see any jews here

2020-03-15 19:02:29 UTC  

this guy is basically a jew

2020-03-15 19:02:42 UTC  

This guy shills Jews

2020-03-15 19:03:00 UTC  

even worse than that he is looking into magic and rituals from pagans

2020-03-15 19:03:06 UTC  

the ammount of cringe is surreal

2020-03-15 19:03:23 UTC  

```Jews are theologically superior to you in nearly every way lol```

2020-03-15 19:03:58 UTC  

To muslims? Yeah they are and I stand by that

2020-03-15 19:04:19 UTC  

Jews are theologically inferior to everyone

2020-03-15 19:04:30 UTC  

At least muslims don't say Christ is in hell

2020-03-15 19:06:33 UTC  

Jews are literally just modern satanists, I dont see by what metric you can compare superiority in this case

2020-03-15 19:07:30 UTC  

jews HAVE always been satanists

2020-03-15 19:07:39 UTC  

satanists are jews

2020-03-15 19:08:04 UTC  

not all satanists are jews but all jews are satanists

2020-03-15 19:08:18 UTC  

satanism is very common with older religions

2020-03-15 19:08:27 UTC  

in what sense

2020-03-15 19:08:53 UTC  

theres representations of saturn AKA satan in many pagan religions

2020-03-15 19:09:12 UTC  

even the Egyptians had saturn as a god if im not wrong

2020-03-15 19:09:25 UTC  

The Romans and Greeks did

2020-03-15 19:10:08 UTC  

I think Zoroastronists also had representations of saturn but idk if they worshipped him, I need to look more into that

2020-03-15 19:10:23 UTC  

yes, but not as a deity that was worshipped @OrthoGoat

2020-03-15 19:10:55 UTC  

well that depends on the religion and sect really