Message from @Joe The Communist

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2020-03-18 23:45:38 UTC  

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2020-03-18 23:46:40 UTC  

m8 these are interesting questions

2020-03-18 23:54:05 UTC  

Yes, ordinary magisterium is fallible.

Possibly, exactly how the divine works through a person I don't think has been layed out exactly.

If you accept V2 then yes, it is possible for them to if they live a certain way. If you don't then they must go through the Aquinas way if they are to go to heaven.

Regarding Dante's inferno I know there are some spared from punishment and some receiving worse punishment, it has *some* authenticity, but certainly isn't canon.

2020-03-18 23:56:23 UTC  

Ordinary magisterium is fallible, that means that there are some offices within the church that do not have divine influence?

2020-03-18 23:56:34 UTC  

Or is ordinary magisterium related to something else?

2020-03-18 23:56:39 UTC  
2020-03-19 00:09:15 UTC  

@Eoppa Last question bruh

2020-03-19 00:57:47 UTC  

@Eoppa He ditched me

2020-03-19 00:58:05 UTC  

He's probably busy

2020-03-19 01:13:57 UTC  

@AncienMedecin well yes, and it could mean it simply comes from the teachings of a person who demands respect whether they act on the office or not.

2020-03-19 01:17:42 UTC  

Wait, I think I see a contradiction. You said that if a church official acts on the office, somebody like the Pope, then they are infallible. But fallible magisterium you say here can be exercised even by somebody acting in the office? @Eoppa

2020-03-19 01:18:48 UTC  

Well let's take for example a Bishop instructing his local inferiors. That wouldn't be infallible.

2020-03-19 01:38:47 UTC  

Well whaddaya know Catholicism might actually be consistent

2020-03-19 01:44:11 UTC  

The Church Fathers know best

2020-03-19 01:51:21 UTC  

I am dumb

2020-03-19 01:52:48 UTC  

Aren't we all just prideful ignorant who know only so little about this world y

2020-03-19 01:53:55 UTC  

I am referring to the daddy comment I made that got removed twice

2020-03-19 01:56:26 UTC  

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2020-03-19 02:22:55 UTC  

Who pinged

2020-03-19 02:23:02 UTC  

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question 🔖

-Should Rome have made Christianity the official religion?

2020-03-19 02:23:05 UTC  

I did

2020-03-19 02:23:06 UTC  

I didst

2020-03-19 02:23:09 UTC  

No I did

2020-03-19 02:23:18 UTC  

No

2020-03-19 02:23:23 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-19 02:23:34 UTC  

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2020-03-19 02:23:49 UTC  

The Roman gods were copies of the Greeks anyway

2020-03-19 02:24:30 UTC  

All nations should

2020-03-19 02:24:39 UTC  

Amen

2020-03-19 02:24:58 UTC  

Amen

2020-03-19 02:27:47 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-19 02:27:53 UTC  

Amen

2020-03-19 02:31:06 UTC  

@Florida Man Not completely tho

2020-03-19 02:31:36 UTC  

Well more like "change it a bit"

2020-03-19 02:33:21 UTC  

They also had some gods all of their own

2020-03-19 02:33:33 UTC  

Like Bellona isn't anywhere in the Greek pantheon

2020-03-19 02:34:16 UTC  

They don't invoke Mars = Ares as the god of war, they invoke Jupiter = Zeus. That's because Mars for them is more like a defensive patron-war god of Rome.

2020-03-19 02:43:54 UTC  

Whilst I agree with @Eoppa 's assessment, I stand to say Rome was well in it's corruption by the time it changed to Christianity. Would have been better if it just fell.

2020-03-19 02:44:53 UTC  

Mithraism was the way to go for Constantine, he fell for the Death and Resurrection meme smh

2020-03-19 04:32:37 UTC  

The name "Jerusalem" is variously etymologized to mean "foundation (Sumerian yeru, 'settlement'/Semitic yry' 'to found, to lay a cornerstone')
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem
The stone that the builders rejected became the cornerstone
Babylon is the gateway of the Gods and we're probably talking about gates made of stone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar_Gate
Have any of you considered that New Jerusalem or the Christian goal of their own zion is truthfully just the establishment of New Babylon? The epithet "whore of Babylon" is not necessarily a statement on Babylon itself but rather a part of an equation in the synthesis of a new world order>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Many_Miles_to_Babylon%3F

2020-03-19 04:36:30 UTC  

No matter what veneer the empire adopts, if the conclusion is still ultimately new Babylon and the change from Hellenism Christianity is a superficial difference that is necessary for the synthesis of the thousand year empire. That's my two cents.