Message from @Joe The Communist
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m8 these are interesting questions
Yes, ordinary magisterium is fallible.
Possibly, exactly how the divine works through a person I don't think has been layed out exactly.
If you accept V2 then yes, it is possible for them to if they live a certain way. If you don't then they must go through the Aquinas way if they are to go to heaven.
Regarding Dante's inferno I know there are some spared from punishment and some receiving worse punishment, it has *some* authenticity, but certainly isn't canon.
Ordinary magisterium is fallible, that means that there are some offices within the church that do not have divine influence?
Or is ordinary magisterium related to something else?
@Eoppa Last question bruh
@Eoppa He ditched me
He's probably busy
@AncienMedecin well yes, and it could mean it simply comes from the teachings of a person who demands respect whether they act on the office or not.
Wait, I think I see a contradiction. You said that if a church official acts on the office, somebody like the Pope, then they are infallible. But fallible magisterium you say here can be exercised even by somebody acting in the office? @Eoppa
Well let's take for example a Bishop instructing his local inferiors. That wouldn't be infallible.
Well whaddaya know Catholicism might actually be consistent
The Church Fathers know best
I am dumb
Aren't we all just prideful ignorant who know only so little about this world y
I am referring to the daddy comment I made that got removed twice
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<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question 🔖
-Should Rome have made Christianity the official religion?
I didst
No I did
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The Roman gods were copies of the Greeks anyway
All nations should
Amen
Amen
Yes
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@Florida Man Not completely tho
Well more like "change it a bit"
They also had some gods all of their own
Like Bellona isn't anywhere in the Greek pantheon
They don't invoke Mars = Ares as the god of war, they invoke Jupiter = Zeus. That's because Mars for them is more like a defensive patron-war god of Rome.
Whilst I agree with @Eoppa 's assessment, I stand to say Rome was well in it's corruption by the time it changed to Christianity. Would have been better if it just fell.
Mithraism was the way to go for Constantine, he fell for the Death and Resurrection meme smh
The name "Jerusalem" is variously etymologized to mean "foundation (Sumerian yeru, 'settlement'/Semitic yry' 'to found, to lay a cornerstone')
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem
The stone that the builders rejected became the cornerstone
Babylon is the gateway of the Gods and we're probably talking about gates made of stone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar_Gate
Have any of you considered that New Jerusalem or the Christian goal of their own zion is truthfully just the establishment of New Babylon? The epithet "whore of Babylon" is not necessarily a statement on Babylon itself but rather a part of an equation in the synthesis of a new world order>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Many_Miles_to_Babylon%3F
No matter what veneer the empire adopts, if the conclusion is still ultimately new Babylon and the change from Hellenism Christianity is a superficial difference that is necessary for the synthesis of the thousand year empire. That's my two cents.