Message from @Gothik Extravaganza

Discord ID: 693132842187751544


2020-03-27 15:57:45 UTC  

I misspoke

2020-03-27 15:59:05 UTC  

Even if it is not, you have failed every step to prevent a pregnancy and have got to the last one, which is ambiguously a life or about to become a life. And then you terminate it

2020-03-27 15:59:47 UTC  

It's disguising, vile and shows a damning pattern of behavior in not having any responsibility for your actions.

2020-03-27 16:00:29 UTC  

would you sacrifice a baby to save an adult?

2020-03-27 16:00:41 UTC  

Stupid questions.

2020-03-27 16:00:47 UTC  

(already born baby)

2020-03-27 16:01:01 UTC  

Depends on the adult.

2020-03-27 16:01:06 UTC  

For you? No.

2020-03-27 16:01:26 UTC  

But it is a stupid question. That has no practical application to a abortion debate.

2020-03-27 16:01:26 UTC  

LOL

2020-03-27 16:01:48 UTC  

That's a top fucking response.

2020-03-27 16:02:15 UTC  

Stem cells can save lives?

2020-03-27 16:10:07 UTC  

The potentiality of an actuality = actualized actuality in terms of the actuality

2020-03-27 16:10:42 UTC  

*no :(*

2020-03-27 16:12:37 UTC  

ater botum so cleber!

2020-03-27 16:12:51 UTC  

Do you define personhood by “having a much more developed network”? @Ater Votum

2020-03-27 16:14:07 UTC  

Conception is what defines personhood.

2020-03-27 16:18:41 UTC  

I fail to see any problem with abortion.

2020-03-27 16:19:22 UTC  

agree

2020-03-27 16:21:11 UTC  

The fetus doesn't seem to have any qualities deservig of moral consideration, and I don't see how you could ever argue that it's potential deserves protecting without arriving at other absurdities.

2020-03-27 16:22:27 UTC  

@Spider Sutra it has a heartbeat to say the least.

2020-03-27 16:22:31 UTC  

?

2020-03-27 16:22:34 UTC  

Who cares

2020-03-27 16:22:43 UTC  

Cows have a heartbeat and we literally eat them.

2020-03-27 16:23:13 UTC  

Cows are not human.

2020-03-27 16:23:24 UTC  

We do not eat fetus'

2020-03-27 16:23:42 UTC  

So the qualities of human and having a heartbeat are what grant the fetus moral consideration?

2020-03-27 16:24:09 UTC  

They are a start.

2020-03-27 16:24:18 UTC  

Are they by themselves enough?

2020-03-27 16:24:28 UTC  

Thats not a question.

2020-03-27 16:24:31 UTC  

Perhaps

2020-03-27 16:24:40 UTC  

It is a question.

2020-03-27 16:24:48 UTC  

Perhaps isn't much of an answer though.

2020-03-27 16:25:03 UTC  

If they thenselves are not enough, then what characteristic is enough?

2020-03-27 16:25:12 UTC  

Indeed. You asked a vague question, you got a vague answer.

2020-03-27 16:25:26 UTC  

How is my question vague?

2020-03-27 16:25:34 UTC  

What would you quantify as being enough?

2020-03-27 16:25:40 UTC  

Is having a heartbeat and being human sufficient for moral consideration?

2020-03-27 16:25:48 UTC  

When is humanity non sufficient?

2020-03-27 16:25:48 UTC  

This question is not vague

2020-03-27 16:26:10 UTC  

I don't see a reason to see humanity has sufficient or necessary.