accept*

You are killing someone who will help humanity develop which means you are harming humanity which makes you to either repent or be killed

If all the children aborted last year were to survive, would our country be better off by all metrics?

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That's a hard question

yes

because most of them would still not be borned

But either way I don't really care.

people will take less risk

Banning smoking, alcohol would help our society if it was feasible.

so what's your point?

I wouldn't ever advocate for that.

My point is you also need to establish why I should always care about maximizing the benefit of my tribe.

but they don't harm other people's rights

you killing a child violates its

And why your outcome is a better measurement of maximizing it than mine.

are you an egoist/

Does it have rights?

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a fetus?

yes

How do you know that?

That rights even exist?

it is going to be 99.99% of the time a functioning human

One sec...brb

ok just want to say that if you don't care about the betterment of others then you are outside the structure

meaning you yourself lose your right if want you do violates someone elses

I care about the betterment of others

Sometimes

But not because I believe in this nebulous idea of rights.

so you don't care about your tribe?

Uh what do you mean by tribe?

My society? Race? Creed?

all

mostly family in the begining

then your greater group and the the nation

even all of humanity counts

though less

Ehhhh not really. Should I? I care about those who share my ideals I suppose.

there are greater rights for those within the family and less for those outside

How do you know this?