Message from @vladi004

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2020-03-27 22:37:18 UTC  

Society decided (for the most part) to allow abortion.

2020-03-27 22:37:38 UTC  

So do you want me to continue on abortion?

2020-03-27 22:37:44 UTC  

Societies also disagree on these policies, between socities

2020-03-27 22:37:54 UTC  

I'm just responding to your point. By all means.

2020-03-27 22:38:38 UTC  

abortion is part of murder because murder is killing someone of your tribe or of other tribe who didn't pose a threat

2020-03-27 22:38:39 UTC  

But keep in mind I haven't accepted human rights as of yet.

2020-03-27 22:38:49 UTC  

killing a child harms your own tribe

2020-03-27 22:38:53 UTC  

less workforce

2020-03-27 22:38:54 UTC  

Using this definition sure, abortion could be considered murder.

2020-03-27 22:38:59 UTC  

less thinkers

2020-03-27 22:39:02 UTC  

Not always.

2020-03-27 22:39:07 UTC  

Less criminals.

2020-03-27 22:39:16 UTC  

Less strain on welfare programs.

2020-03-27 22:39:23 UTC  

It can go both ways.

2020-03-27 22:39:23 UTC  

they get punished when they are proven guilty

2020-03-27 22:39:34 UTC  

The punishment has a social cost.

2020-03-27 22:39:40 UTC  

The victims, the cost of police

2020-03-27 22:39:41 UTC  

The courts

2020-03-27 22:39:50 UTC  

All of this can sometimes be avoided with abortion.

2020-03-27 22:39:57 UTC  

no it can't

2020-03-27 22:40:10 UTC  

except if you don't want to kill humanity?

2020-03-27 22:40:29 UTC  

Well i don't think we should abort everyone

2020-03-27 22:40:36 UTC  

the you are wrong

2020-03-27 22:40:45 UTC  

as long as man exist the strain is their

2020-03-27 22:41:03 UTC  

you just refuse to except a person who is more likely to be helpful then harmful

2020-03-27 22:41:12 UTC  

accept*

2020-03-27 22:42:16 UTC  

You are killing someone who will help humanity develop which means you are harming humanity which makes you to either repent or be killed

2020-03-27 22:42:22 UTC  

If all the children aborted last year were to survive, would our country be better off by all metrics?

2020-03-27 22:42:25 UTC  

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2020-03-27 22:42:32 UTC  

That's a hard question

2020-03-27 22:42:39 UTC  

yes

2020-03-27 22:42:47 UTC  

because most of them would still not be borned

2020-03-27 22:42:52 UTC  

But either way I don't really care.

2020-03-27 22:42:57 UTC  

people will take less risk

2020-03-27 22:43:07 UTC  

Banning smoking, alcohol would help our society if it was feasible.

2020-03-27 22:43:11 UTC  

so what's your point?

2020-03-27 22:43:14 UTC  

I wouldn't ever advocate for that.

2020-03-27 22:43:34 UTC  

My point is you also need to establish why I should always care about maximizing the benefit of my tribe.

2020-03-27 22:43:39 UTC  

but they don't harm other people's rights

2020-03-27 22:43:48 UTC  

you killing a child violates its

2020-03-27 22:43:57 UTC  

And why your outcome is a better measurement of maximizing it than mine.