Message from @vladi004
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Society decided (for the most part) to allow abortion.
So do you want me to continue on abortion?
Societies also disagree on these policies, between socities
I'm just responding to your point. By all means.
abortion is part of murder because murder is killing someone of your tribe or of other tribe who didn't pose a threat
But keep in mind I haven't accepted human rights as of yet.
killing a child harms your own tribe
less workforce
Using this definition sure, abortion could be considered murder.
less thinkers
Not always.
Less criminals.
Less strain on welfare programs.
It can go both ways.
they get punished when they are proven guilty
The punishment has a social cost.
The victims, the cost of police
The courts
All of this can sometimes be avoided with abortion.
no it can't
Well i don't think we should abort everyone
the you are wrong
as long as man exist the strain is their
you just refuse to except a person who is more likely to be helpful then harmful
accept*
You are killing someone who will help humanity develop which means you are harming humanity which makes you to either repent or be killed
If all the children aborted last year were to survive, would our country be better off by all metrics?
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That's a hard question
yes
because most of them would still not be borned
But either way I don't really care.
people will take less risk
Banning smoking, alcohol would help our society if it was feasible.
so what's your point?
I wouldn't ever advocate for that.
My point is you also need to establish why I should always care about maximizing the benefit of my tribe.
but they don't harm other people's rights
you killing a child violates its
And why your outcome is a better measurement of maximizing it than mine.