Message from @Clincoin

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2020-01-03 02:07:33 UTC  

Fallacy Fallacy

2020-01-03 02:07:42 UTC  

Adhomining means insulting instead of addressing arguments

2020-01-03 02:07:45 UTC  

i addressed your argument

2020-01-03 02:07:48 UTC  

and i never insulted you

2020-01-03 02:08:00 UTC  

Claiming a fallacy against someone does not make their argument invalid

2020-01-03 02:08:20 UTC  

It is an insult to claim i got destroyed with an argument from motion.

2020-01-03 02:08:32 UTC  

under what definition of insult are you operating

2020-01-03 02:09:55 UTC  

fairly certain that if your claim was true, that you have interacted with me before, then you also know what you experienced as potential thumbscrews. I keep insults under the definition of untrue claims about another, used intentionally to offend the target

2020-01-03 02:10:20 UTC  

Your non-evidence based claims are insulting to me

2020-01-03 02:10:46 UTC  

How do you know i used it to offend you?

2020-01-03 02:10:49 UTC  

Mind reading is disingenuous

2020-01-03 02:11:04 UTC  

If you claim that i didn't ban a person that posted gore in my server, simply say their name and i'll give you the ban list <a:shruganimated:421995622346784768>

2020-01-03 02:11:11 UTC  

Holy shit you fucking 2 mongols, start from a clean slate.

2020-01-03 02:11:13 UTC  

Now

2020-01-03 02:11:19 UTC  

he's cringe i remember i debated him before

2020-01-03 02:11:22 UTC  

I dont care

2020-01-03 02:11:24 UTC  

clean slate

2020-01-03 02:11:37 UTC  

It's not the first time he has done this, i want him to provide evidence or realize he needs to stop this

2020-01-03 02:12:10 UTC  

So @Maksim What definitions of capitalism and nationalism did you use for your question?

2020-01-03 02:13:14 UTC  

Are you kidding me? Why would you expect me to still cling on evidence from more than 5 months ago of you not banning a dude that posted a picture of dead germans in ww2 to claim superiority as an american over germany

2020-01-03 02:13:45 UTC  

Then drop it.

2020-01-03 02:13:48 UTC  

And how do you expect me to have evidence that you banned me because i destroyed you, why would i screenshot my argument with you prior to getting banned? When i got banned i couldn't have collected evidence since i was banned

2020-01-03 02:13:49 UTC  

No

2020-01-03 02:14:56 UTC  

@Clincoin Capitalism being free-markets and consumerism.

Nationalism being the preservation and valuation of one's culture and moral code.

2020-01-03 02:15:59 UTC  

What type of free market, do you mean absolute free markets or with anti-monopoly action?
Also, what do you define as culture under nationalism? morals i get, but culture is very vague.

2020-01-03 02:16:43 UTC  

Either.
Culture is an irrational concept, one simply knows it can it usually cannot be quantified. One knows if he is in or out of it.

2020-01-03 02:17:39 UTC  

Why can't it be quantified

2020-01-03 02:18:21 UTC  

I just explained

2020-01-03 02:18:42 UTC  

well do it again

2020-01-03 02:18:46 UTC  

No

2020-01-03 02:18:53 UTC  

just ctrl-v

2020-01-03 02:19:01 UTC  

You can have free markets without allowing international markets to have influence in theory, so i'd say they can with workarounds definetely be compatible

2020-01-03 02:19:23 UTC  

But if you have free markets with outside influences then surely no

2020-01-03 02:19:55 UTC  

I'd figure either evaluated capitalism or mixed economics.

2020-01-03 02:20:18 UTC  

Classic Fascist

2020-01-03 02:20:37 UTC  

yes.

2020-01-03 02:20:38 UTC  

@Clincoin It's not just international markets

2020-01-03 02:21:25 UTC  

Well if markets influence culture, that which we cannot know what is, then we cannot discuss it

2020-01-03 02:21:32 UTC  

too little knowledge

2020-01-03 02:21:42 UTC  

Free Markets mean corporations will always attempt to make as much money as possible

2020-01-03 02:22:04 UTC  

Not necessarily, again, workarounds can exist