Message from @Koninos

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2020-02-17 18:57:50 UTC  

Even if they were an ethnic term, South Slavs' genetic is very different from the Northern Slavs' genetic, since the Northern ones have mixed with Nordic, Germanic, even Asian people, and the Southern ones have mixed with Illyrians, Italians, Albanians, Greeks, Turks and Arabs. So yeah, comparing the current genetic status of Bosnians to the current genetic status of Russians would be illogical.

2020-02-17 19:03:13 UTC  

After all, Bosnians mixed with Albanians and Turks more than the other Balkan people, since they're mostly Muslim.

2020-02-17 19:09:40 UTC  

i didnt say russians, kid

2020-02-17 19:09:52 UTC  

I said slavs

2020-02-17 19:10:00 UTC  

Compare bosnian dna to serbian dna

2020-02-17 19:10:02 UTC  

or Croatian dna

2020-02-17 19:10:08 UTC  

its very peculiar

2020-02-17 19:10:16 UTC  

mainly because they mixed both with western europeans and turks

2020-02-17 19:10:26 UTC  

hence not making them slavic

2020-02-17 19:33:53 UTC  

As you wish, adult. Bosnians mixed with Albanians and Turks more because they were and still are, muslims. Serbians and Croatians mixed more with other Southern Slavs, Italians and Greeks. Therefore, religion played a huge role into the genetic development of 21st century Southern Slavs. So yes, they are darker than the average Slavic person, congratulations. That doesn't mean that Bosniaks aren't Slavs. After all, today, all of us are mixed, and especially the people originating from the Balkans.

2020-02-17 19:34:30 UTC  

Also as I mentioned before, it's not only your DNA which makes you a Slav.

2020-02-17 19:34:41 UTC  

Everything except the last 2 sentences was irrelevant there. You like to talk in paragraphs while not conveying a single coherent point, i see

2020-02-17 19:34:42 UTC  

I'll take a bath and brb

2020-02-17 19:34:57 UTC  

Yeah okay cool argument yes.

2020-02-17 19:34:58 UTC  

What was the cause of the genetic development is irrelevant to the genetic development

2020-02-17 19:35:28 UTC  

Bosniaks being mixed with turks and some western europeans, does in fact mean they aren't slavs, since their genetic make up is not in line with the general genetic make up of a slav

2020-02-17 19:35:38 UTC  

Let it be a serb, croat, macedonian, or a russian

2020-02-17 19:36:56 UTC  

"A Y chromosome haplogroups study published in 2005 found that "three main groups of Bosnia-Herzegovina, in spite of some quantitative differences, share a large fraction of the same ancient gene pool distinctive for the Balkan area". The study did however find that Serbs and Bosniaks are genetically closer to each other than either of them is to Croats.[1]"

2020-02-17 19:37:03 UTC  

it was literally a single google away

2020-02-17 19:58:14 UTC  

As I have said multiple times, but you keep omitting it, **being a Slav doesn't mean having a specific genetic status,** because Slavs are Indo-European people who speak the many Slavic languages of the larger Balto-Slavic linguistic group. The Bosnians do belong on this group. After all, here's a map of all the officially recognized Slavic countries:

2020-02-17 19:58:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/679054030139424785/325px-Slavic_World_updated.png

2020-02-17 19:58:54 UTC  

So even if the Bosniak genetic status is unaligned with the Serbian and Croatian one, that doesn't mean they're not Slavs.

2020-02-17 19:59:11 UTC  

Well I obviously disagree

2020-02-17 19:59:14 UTC  

Slav is a genetic status

2020-02-17 19:59:24 UTC  

Not one which is constituted by language or culture

2020-02-17 19:59:34 UTC  

And one tiny correction of a huge mistake of yours: Macedonians aren't Slavs - perhaps you're referring to the Vulgarians living in Northern Macedonia.

2020-02-17 20:00:04 UTC  

Well if we have different interpretations of what a Slav is in the first place, this conversation can't really go anywhere. Not that I expected it to go somewhere, after all.

2020-02-17 20:01:23 UTC  

And as I mentioned earlier, sure, to be a Slav you have to be white and such, an African American can't randomly declare himself a Slav because he knows how to speak Russian... But it's PARTIALLY dependant on biological and physical status.

2020-02-18 02:23:00 UTC  

any people in here that like bloomberg

2020-02-18 02:32:55 UTC  

no one

2020-02-18 02:33:05 UTC  

nigga is rigging his way to top

2020-02-18 02:33:07 UTC  
2020-02-18 03:03:52 UTC  

Bloomberg is just rich

2020-02-18 03:42:44 UTC  

fr

2020-02-18 03:43:12 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/679171033470730240/image0.png

2020-02-18 03:43:35 UTC  

like isn’t it wrong to boo someone who says “all lives matter”

2020-02-18 03:44:00 UTC  

and then apologize and be like sry niggas

2020-02-18 03:47:42 UTC  

all of time is now and you are entire humanity https://youtu.be/4JOfr-NgIzs

2020-02-18 06:29:28 UTC  

i need the pic of the siege dude in front of a power plant

2020-02-18 15:59:16 UTC  

We are headed and have been headed on a path of eventually no one owning anything

2020-02-18 15:59:34 UTC  

With everything being as a service or on-demand