we can at least embrace that we're the counterculture, and try and make the most out of it

our culture romanticises rebels and those who move against the grain

something that we can only exploit

I don't think our culture romanticises rebels per se

I think it does as a byproduct of a high level of individualism

and liberalism

but our culture doesn't seem to appreciate rebels regardless of their motives

case in point, conservative or far right rebels

I mean some do

because our culture isn't a liberal hive mind, there's a decent split of conservatives and liberals in the world

yes

I suppose a better way of putting it is

at least in western culture, but it's probably fair to say in most cultures, we respect and admire someone who is willing to fight for what they believe is right

especially, when it means that they personally have something to lose

it's putting you as the individual second to a moral code, that has a sort of sacrificial element.

if they fight on our side sure

I don't know that we're willing to cheer on rebels who fight contrary to our interests

of course

but if you're an accelerationist

you would probably cheer on any revolutionary

that is not my position necessarily though

yeah but our culture isn't predominantly accelerationist

yes most people don't support accelerationism

my point earlier was most people admire someone willing to put themselves second to a cause

noooo come on

only if the cause is something they're on board with

ok

but you don't have to be in support of the cause, to understand they're making a sacrifice

honour can exist on all parts of the political spectrum

but it's probably emphasised moreso under a nationalist, fascist, right-wing authoritarian worldview

You cant honorably take somebodies shit, execute them and ship the family to a prison labor camp.

Assuming the holocaust was real.

That's NPC tier mindset dude.

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Holocaust denial can usually be obliterated in 60 seconds

Try it

Alright boosty

Do you believe that camps existed?

It's been 60 seconds

Well it's not fair if I can't get a response in time come now <:bruh:591181809493082113>

If this were over voice then I feel confident we could end this in 60 seconds