I suppose a better way of putting it is

at least in western culture, but it's probably fair to say in most cultures, we respect and admire someone who is willing to fight for what they believe is right

especially, when it means that they personally have something to lose

it's putting you as the individual second to a moral code, that has a sort of sacrificial element.

if they fight on our side sure

I don't know that we're willing to cheer on rebels who fight contrary to our interests

of course

but if you're an accelerationist

you would probably cheer on any revolutionary

that is not my position necessarily though

yeah but our culture isn't predominantly accelerationist

yes most people don't support accelerationism

my point earlier was most people admire someone willing to put themselves second to a cause

noooo come on

only if the cause is something they're on board with

ok

but you don't have to be in support of the cause, to understand they're making a sacrifice

honour can exist on all parts of the political spectrum

but it's probably emphasised moreso under a nationalist, fascist, right-wing authoritarian worldview

You cant honorably take somebodies shit, execute them and ship the family to a prison labor camp.

Assuming the holocaust was real.

That's NPC tier mindset dude.

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Holocaust denial can usually be obliterated in 60 seconds

Try it

Alright boosty

Do you believe that camps existed?

It's been 60 seconds

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If this were over voice then I feel confident we could end this in 60 seconds

@BoostyRB25 do you believe the camps existed?

He left so Imma say that I won this one

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I met a guy once who claimed that the Holocaust didn't exist because the camps were used only for scientific research.

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Well he's not completely wrong

Even if the "scientific" research lead to almost nothing valuble after the fact.

About 70% of black kids in America dont have fathers

@ken_

Blacks have a high poverty rate because they lack the patriarchy/nuclear family found in other races

true