Message from @Eno

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2020-01-25 03:10:40 UTC  

How can you read my mind?

2020-01-25 03:10:46 UTC  

I've been thinking that the entire time

2020-01-25 03:10:54 UTC  

its not as simple as that. you have a very simplistic view of it all. Marx is saying that its a product of the oppression the workers experience. he's not advocating for "state atheism" because "state atheism" will not, according to marx, be required once workers are liberated from this oppression @Flash

2020-01-25 03:11:23 UTC  

Marx was literally a Hegelian in his younger years lmao

2020-01-25 03:11:24 UTC  

According to Marxist theory there won’t be a state at all once workers are liberated

2020-01-25 03:11:25 UTC  

he's not saying religion bad or religion good, but rather religion is

2020-01-25 03:11:26 UTC  

"State Atheism"

2020-01-25 03:11:27 UTC  

ok retarrd

2020-01-25 03:11:36 UTC  

exactly @Flash

2020-01-25 03:11:51 UTC  

@Ginnungagap thats why i put it in quotation marks

2020-01-25 03:11:56 UTC  

cause its what he said

2020-01-25 03:11:58 UTC  

Then how could there be state atheism at that point

2020-01-25 03:12:00 UTC  

flash i mean

2020-01-25 03:12:01 UTC  

I know

2020-01-25 03:12:04 UTC  

Thats stupid

2020-01-25 03:12:14 UTC  

He was heavily inspired by Hegel

2020-01-25 03:12:17 UTC  

``Then how could there be state atheism at that point``

thats exactly what im saying lmao

2020-01-25 03:12:30 UTC  

The state atheism comes during the dictatorship of the proletariat

2020-01-25 03:12:31 UTC  

its why your claim that stalin's state atheism is somehow linked to marx is absurd

2020-01-25 03:12:36 UTC  

and not based in any understanding of marx

2020-01-25 03:12:40 UTC  

because marx was not a secularist

2020-01-25 03:12:43 UTC  

nor a theocrat

2020-01-25 03:12:55 UTC  

Wdym the only thing stalin did was ban the open religious practice iirc

2020-01-25 03:12:59 UTC  

I mean every socialist regime I can think of was to an extent state atheist so had to have come from somewhere

2020-01-25 03:13:17 UTC  

yes they have all been largely secular

2020-01-25 03:13:23 UTC  

(then criminalized homosexuality to appease the orthodox church)

2020-01-25 03:13:34 UTC  

this does not mean marx was a secularist

2020-01-25 03:13:46 UTC  

and that in turn does not mean marx supported some sort of state religion

2020-01-25 03:13:59 UTC  

Marx described religion as how he saw it and how he thought it came about

2020-01-25 03:14:03 UTC  

nothing more nothing less

2020-01-25 03:14:04 UTC  

iirc Marx said homosexuality was a biproduct of capitalism

2020-01-25 03:14:20 UTC  

not that im aware of lmao

2020-01-25 03:14:34 UTC  

i know the Castro's were extremely homophobic as well as Stalin

2020-01-25 03:14:43 UTC  

Che was based

2020-01-25 03:14:46 UTC  

Che gang

2020-01-25 03:14:57 UTC  

Fidel said in an interview that its impossible to be a communist and gay

2020-01-25 03:15:08 UTC  

cause the two are mutually exclusive

2020-01-25 03:15:34 UTC  

Do you know who Kai Murros is @Eno

2020-01-25 03:15:36 UTC  

?

2020-01-25 03:15:40 UTC  

There's an LGBT advocate in a Che shirt sweating profusely about it

2020-01-25 03:15:47 UTC  

I mostly follow a lot of his beliefs