Message from @Koninos
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@moira Come <#587029563863990282>
I wouldn't say it all stems from religon.
I'd say Traditions stem from necessity.
There is no inherent necessity for traditions
what are you talking about
necessity in itself must be connected to something which by its very nature, demands certain things we deem to be traditions - this is religion
we are the sum of our history and values and many of those values have come from religion
Nuclear family is highly effective, it's cooperative.
Marriage has a lot to do with structured inheritance.
*Traditional Family*
We aren't talking just marriage, it is the Traditional family that needs to be upheld
If divorces are at 50% that isn't being done
I didn't say it wasn't under attack, I was saying that nuclear family is born out of necessity.
@Deleted User So what do you suggest? To force people to stay together?
You can ensure that people stay together without force
How
encouraging religion will ensure people arent degenerates and are willing to committ to marriage, and will avoid actions that would've destroyed their marriage if they took those actions etc
Believe me, at first, everyone is willing to commit to marriage. But there are many cases in which the wife is abused by the husband, or the opposite. Then you cannot expect people to torture themselves and be abused for the rest of their lifespan, lol.
A husband and wife may lose thier interest in one another, but never their child, it's what'll hold it together.
@Koninos No, but you do understand why people are getting divorces right?
She wouldnt be abused by her husband if her husband was religious
People are getting divorces not because men and women are beating eachother more
not because there is more domestic abuse
but because of sexualization
and "marriage doesn't matter"
and because people lost religious conviction
I don't find it right all times, but I don't find forcing people to stay together right either.
they would rather go off and have unlimited sex with people than stay with a spouse and kid
It is good to encourage marriage commitment though.
That's not what our societies do though
because we are so sexualized
that nobody gives a shit
so degenerate
And it doesn't always happen for pleasure
It happens for money too
"Together through thick and thin"
One of my mother's friends was paid by the state when she had a divorce, because she got her daughter, obviously.
That is pathetic
Yes, it is.
I think people, as a part of the human condition, take solace in symbols and what they stand for. The things that religion stands for are absolutely disgusting to me when analyzed past the niceties of the initial introduction
tell me 1 good reason to not legalize cannabis