Message from @LOGiK

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2020-02-14 21:41:30 UTC  

Add to that the fact that the elderly can for some fucking reason drive and you have a lot of easily preventable accidents <:HonkHonk:566814473646768128>

2020-02-14 21:59:28 UTC  

yeah but most old people be driving at 2 mph

2020-02-14 21:59:40 UTC  

and most road accidents are caused by young men

2020-02-14 21:59:46 UTC  

deadly at least

2020-02-14 22:16:09 UTC  

Monkey brains

2020-02-15 02:54:45 UTC  

Taking away peoples freedoms because they're old isn't really a good policy

2020-02-15 02:55:12 UTC  

uh

2020-02-15 02:55:14 UTC  

on the one hand, yes

2020-02-15 02:55:29 UTC  

on the other hand, reevaluating their skills frequently is good

2020-02-15 03:01:20 UTC  

Not really, experience usually compensates for age to an extent and expectations change

2020-02-15 03:01:55 UTC  

It's somewhat unfair to require consistent learning through life when age makes learning more difficult in later years

2020-02-15 03:02:56 UTC  

The fact is a 60 year old will find it far more difficult to learn than a 20 year old

2020-02-15 03:03:56 UTC  

Also part of the safety issues with older people is their reaction speeds deteriorating, that is specifically an age related thing

2020-02-15 03:06:02 UTC  

Yes that's the only reason

2020-02-15 03:06:07 UTC  

They have no reaction time

2020-02-15 03:07:16 UTC  

By the time they see someone in front of the car they have already hit them lol

2020-02-15 03:12:42 UTC  

@LOGiK I was thinking like 70 or 80, not 60

2020-02-15 03:12:58 UTC  

also they don't need to keep learning, just prove that they can continue to be a competent driver

2020-02-15 03:14:41 UTC  

By what standards?

2020-02-15 03:14:51 UTC  

Todays, or the ones they passed with?

2020-02-15 03:15:15 UTC  

Because if you say todays then my argument on continued learning applied

2020-02-15 03:15:30 UTC  

And you're also talking about literal age based discrimination

2020-02-15 03:17:07 UTC  

"you're now 70 you must take a test to prove your driving competence again" would result in a stronger argument for requiring retests every 5 or 10 years or something for everyone regardless of age than just a fixed competence proving at 70

2020-02-15 03:17:35 UTC  

uh

2020-02-15 03:17:36 UTC  

yes

2020-02-15 03:18:01 UTC  

reflexes are indisputably proven to degrade with age

2020-02-15 03:18:22 UTC  

I'm not arguing for a blanket ban after a certain age although I would support more frequent checkups as people get older

2020-02-15 03:18:35 UTC  

if they can compensate for it with experience then good on them, as long as they're able to meet modern safety standards

2020-02-15 03:20:50 UTC  

^

2020-02-15 03:22:50 UTC  

Also what's wrong with age discrimination? Nobody gets more fit as they age. Everyone deteriorates.

2020-02-15 03:23:16 UTC  

Lets have more difficult driving competence challenges for young drivers then

2020-02-15 03:23:34 UTC  

In fact, lets ban them from vehicles over 200 hp until theyre 25

2020-02-15 03:23:38 UTC  

Much safer

2020-02-15 03:24:18 UTC  

Since statistically young drivers are much more of a danger

2020-02-15 03:28:30 UTC  

No again I'm not asking the elderly to pass more difficult tests. Just your normal one that everybody else passes.

2020-02-15 03:29:24 UTC  

But then how are they safe when their 25 with no experience or "training"

2020-02-15 03:35:13 UTC  

Young drivers have plenty of ways to decrease the risks they present. Get a good mentor. Dont be an idiot (no drugs/alchohol) while driving. As a beginner take it slow. Etc etc.

2020-02-15 03:36:45 UTC  

The elderly on the other hand cant just stop aging. They cant reverse or counteract aging in any meaningful way.

2020-02-15 03:37:01 UTC  

Then why is it that young drivers are the big risk factor?

2020-02-15 03:37:13 UTC  

Maybe they need to be made to prove better competencr

2020-02-15 03:37:20 UTC  

Like you're suggesting for the elderly