By the time they see someone in front of the car they have already hit them lol

@LOGiK I was thinking like 70 or 80, not 60

also they don't need to keep learning, just prove that they can continue to be a competent driver

By what standards?

Todays, or the ones they passed with?

Because if you say todays then my argument on continued learning applied

And you're also talking about literal age based discrimination

"you're now 70 you must take a test to prove your driving competence again" would result in a stronger argument for requiring retests every 5 or 10 years or something for everyone regardless of age than just a fixed competence proving at 70

uh

yes

reflexes are indisputably proven to degrade with age

I'm not arguing for a blanket ban after a certain age although I would support more frequent checkups as people get older

if they can compensate for it with experience then good on them, as long as they're able to meet modern safety standards

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Also what's wrong with age discrimination? Nobody gets more fit as they age. Everyone deteriorates.

Lets have more difficult driving competence challenges for young drivers then

In fact, lets ban them from vehicles over 200 hp until theyre 25

Much safer

Since statistically young drivers are much more of a danger

No again I'm not asking the elderly to pass more difficult tests. Just your normal one that everybody else passes.

But then how are they safe when their 25 with no experience or "training"

Young drivers have plenty of ways to decrease the risks they present. Get a good mentor. Dont be an idiot (no drugs/alchohol) while driving. As a beginner take it slow. Etc etc.

The elderly on the other hand cant just stop aging. They cant reverse or counteract aging in any meaningful way.

Then why is it that young drivers are the big risk factor?

Maybe they need to be made to prove better competencr

Like you're suggesting for the elderly

You can't make the argument that "oh elderly people need some way of proving they're capable drivers" without that also instantly becoming "then young drivers need it more as they're less safe"

Yes they should

And then you can extend that further, maybe revoke licensed every traffic incident

Again young drivers can do something. They're still young. Old people can not.

Personally l will never support suppression of freedoms

?

Their freedom to hurt others?

it's mostly inexperience mixed with youthful stupidity, if you just make the test harder then what are you really changing?

Statistically somewhat irrelevant when young drivers are the bigger problem

I'm not at all against making the current tests harder.

By far

Yes but this has nothing to do with young drivers

I'm only discussing elderly and their lower reaction times

You're targeting groups based on age under the guise of "safety"

Are you denying that people get worse physically and mentally as they age?