Message from @GeorgyBoyo
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also they don't need to keep learning, just prove that they can continue to be a competent driver
By what standards?
Todays, or the ones they passed with?
Because if you say todays then my argument on continued learning applied
And you're also talking about literal age based discrimination
"you're now 70 you must take a test to prove your driving competence again" would result in a stronger argument for requiring retests every 5 or 10 years or something for everyone regardless of age than just a fixed competence proving at 70
uh
yes
reflexes are indisputably proven to degrade with age
I'm not arguing for a blanket ban after a certain age although I would support more frequent checkups as people get older
if they can compensate for it with experience then good on them, as long as they're able to meet modern safety standards
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Also what's wrong with age discrimination? Nobody gets more fit as they age. Everyone deteriorates.
Lets have more difficult driving competence challenges for young drivers then
In fact, lets ban them from vehicles over 200 hp until theyre 25
Much safer
Since statistically young drivers are much more of a danger
No again I'm not asking the elderly to pass more difficult tests. Just your normal one that everybody else passes.
But then how are they safe when their 25 with no experience or "training"
Young drivers have plenty of ways to decrease the risks they present. Get a good mentor. Dont be an idiot (no drugs/alchohol) while driving. As a beginner take it slow. Etc etc.
The elderly on the other hand cant just stop aging. They cant reverse or counteract aging in any meaningful way.
Then why is it that young drivers are the big risk factor?
Maybe they need to be made to prove better competencr
Like you're suggesting for the elderly
You can't make the argument that "oh elderly people need some way of proving they're capable drivers" without that also instantly becoming "then young drivers need it more as they're less safe"
Yes they should
And then you can extend that further, maybe revoke licensed every traffic incident
Again young drivers can do something. They're still young. Old people can not.
Personally l will never support suppression of freedoms
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Their freedom to hurt others?
it's mostly inexperience mixed with youthful stupidity, if you just make the test harder then what are you really changing?
Statistically somewhat irrelevant when young drivers are the bigger problem
I'm not at all against making the current tests harder.
By far
Yes but this has nothing to do with young drivers
I'm only discussing elderly and their lower reaction times
You're targeting groups based on age under the guise of "safety"
Are you denying that people get worse physically and mentally as they age?
You're saying that despite the wealth of experience elderly drivers may have amassed over their years of driving, they should be subjected to additional hoops to jump through to retain their ability to drive, neglecting the fact that many absolutely depend on this and won't be able to function without their license, all in the name of the highet likelyhood that they'll be involved in a crash than someone 10 years younger
Simultanously you don't want anything to change for the younger drivers