Message from @MountainMan

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2019-11-30 21:30:22 UTC  

A phyrric victory

2019-12-01 07:10:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532966360519802890/650594683185135616/then_call_it_byzantine_empire.jpg

2019-12-01 07:11:23 UTC  

lets call them the 🅱yzantine empire

2019-12-01 07:12:02 UTC  

not 🇷oman empire

2019-12-01 07:12:13 UTC  

Who calls all Norse 'viking'?

2019-12-01 07:12:22 UTC  

like every history docu

2019-12-01 07:12:28 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2019-12-01 07:12:45 UTC  

ive seen nothing but 'vikings built houses and had dogs and were farmers'

2019-12-01 07:12:58 UTC  

vikings did non-pirate stuff

2019-12-01 07:13:03 UTC  

even though viking means pirate

2019-12-01 07:13:06 UTC  

but whatever

2019-12-01 07:13:10 UTC  

hmm

2019-12-01 07:14:39 UTC  

"vikings wore gambeeson armor"

2019-12-01 07:16:27 UTC  

ok retard

2019-12-01 07:20:57 UTC  

why

2019-12-01 07:21:05 UTC  

triggered?

2019-12-01 07:27:35 UTC  

you literally spout the dumbest shit in here

2019-12-01 10:15:58 UTC  

One of the biggest Chads in history

2019-12-01 10:16:37 UTC  

And his second chad in command

2019-12-01 16:47:09 UTC  

"Companion to Muhammad" he was a bottom.

2019-12-01 17:31:02 UTC  

Khalid is comparable to Napoleon or Hannibal with how he expanded the Caliphate, and in how well his tactics were. Dhiraar killed many byzantine and persian officers in combat by his lonesome. They are massive chads 😎

2019-12-02 19:21:48 UTC  

interesting

2019-12-02 20:30:36 UTC  

Killing hitler would not have stopped nazism from existing. Killing mussolini would not have stopped fascism. Someone else would've stepped up instead, it would have a different name, different facial hair, but nazism would still develop and cause a war of unprecedented scale and untold amounts of suffering. It wasn't a person that created those movements, it was resentment, a palpable threat, the anguish of a people torn in a disastrous post war enviroment. But just that wasn't enough. People didn't elect Hitler because they resented the Versailles treaty. People didn't vote Mussolini at all. They were facing the existential threat of a rising movement in Europe, that convinced even the most reasonable peasant that the march on Rome was not just acceptable but favourable to the alternative. They were faced with rampant Communism, beating people in the streets, proposing preposterous ideas that went against the very core of the people they were supposedly fighting for, vandals and thugs and terrorists. So violent in fact that the authorities nor the people intervened and even cherished once the tables turned, and the fascists went from getting beaten in the streets to organizing death squads to fight off the bands of communist terrorists. Why would the police care if the thugs throwing bombs into police stations get beaten to death? Why should I care if the socialist that set the building where my dad works on fire because they let a politician talk there?
The fascists didn't get in power through legitimate means, but the communist threat was so great that nor the authorities nor the people objected. It wasn't because mussolini or hitler were in some way particularly gifted, except maybe somewhat good at giving speeches.

Long story short, if you want to travel back in time to stop WWII, don't shoot baby Hitler, shoot baby Marx

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Only real men on this island

2019-12-02 21:10:33 UTC  

Marx wasn't responsible for creating the inter war environment of mass economic striggle and social division which led to the rise of authoritarianism and fascism in Europe

2019-12-02 21:11:41 UTC  

@Capitán Alatriste explained in the text

2019-12-02 21:12:09 UTC  

The rise of socialist sentiment was an effect, as was the rise of fascism

2019-12-02 21:12:15 UTC  

it wasnt just that

2019-12-02 21:12:16 UTC  

oh sure

2019-12-02 21:12:30 UTC  

Extreme ideologies tend to emerge in times of need

2019-12-02 21:12:43 UTC  

sure

2019-12-02 21:13:05 UTC  

but the authorities would have cracked down on fascism if there wasnt a biggest threat