Message from @Donaldus Triumphus
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get the asians
We're split on that topic
Their similar to us
So most of us are fine with them
Asians aren’t well rounded compared to Europeans, they have strong IQ’s and such but aren’t western valued.
It’s like the same with other races if they assimilate it’s good
We just want to defend our people, our culture, our faith, and our homeland
It’s like going to Japan but not seeing Japanese people instead seeing white people and christan religion instead of the homeland ideology
I guess one way to put it is we want a strong, unified America. We need a people who are patriotic and share our culture, our values, etc. This means that we need to hold on to everything that makes our country unified and strong, and do away with the harmful aspects. There are many beneficial members to this country regardless of race, and there are a lot of people of all races holding us back. We want everyone who is here to contribute to the betterment of this country, and to devote themselves to something greater than themselves. It'll build them up as people as opposed to the selfish liberals who do nothing yet still demand everything. We just realize that races are different from one another, and having cultures, races and the like mix up, it desroys the unique beauty of each race. We love our race and our people, but we don't hate others simply for being of a different race. Every race deserves a homeland, has a destiny, a history, and a future. We can encourage each race to be built up without being mixed together, as forced multiculturalism doesn't build up, it destroys.
@Ben Garrison ready when you are
Yeah that's definitely a part of it, but it's a bit of an incomplete definition since you could just as easily define a patriot that way. A nationalist subscribes to the idea of nations - collections of people with a common heritage and identity - and that these nations should have states that embody them.
does an American Nationalist have to believe in an ethnostate ;l
No
In fact I'd wager most don't.
So a nationalist has to believe everybody in the country has to be white?
No
wait shit came out wrong
common heritage and identity,
can you elaborate on that
That part varies from person to person. The two main flavors of nationalism as I like to think of it are ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. Ethno-nationalist like myself believe that ethnicity plays a part in national identity, and therefore believe that a stable nation-state is a state composed almost entirely of only the nation. Civic nationalists, which most mainstream conservatives are especially in America, do not believe that ethnicity has much if any bearing on national identity. They see things as more of a cultural-political allegiance to the values and principles of whatever state the person resides in. The concept of the nation is therefore a much more individualistic idea that someone opts into by believing in the institutions and principles associated with the nation - in the case of America that would mean believing in democracy, the Constitution, civil liberties and the like. Both ethno-nationalism and civic nationalism consider a shared language important, but ethno-nationalists might put more emphasis on it.
aslong as it isn't Democrat lol
Civic nationalism really takes shape during and immediately after the French Revolution and plays a large part in the French understanding of nationalism still to this day. Ethno-nationalism really starts to come into its own during the unification efforts of Germany and Italy throughout the 19th century (it's not strictly a National Socialist/Fascist concept, though these two ideologies were heavily influenced by their past). If you were curious and wanted to read about those periods of history to get a better understanding
Civic Nationalism, I'm assuming that believes in heavy federal laws
where the federal government gets an ass ton of power
but maybe I'm wrong, my memory is a little hazy
Not necessarily
It could involve that but a strong central authority isn't inherent to civic nationalist thought
It says civic nationalism is based off liberalism
shit I'm a Democrat lol
although I guess Democrat and liberal aren't the same thing
I think the Republicans were once liberal
Hey didn't the Democrats originally believe in slavery
back then, every black guy was Republican. The Republicans were against slavery
@Ben Garrison I think I'm an old-fashion liberal, kind of like Alex Jones
Don't really know at this point lol
The American idea of liberal is skewed. When the word liberal is used in a historical or European context it means classical liberalism, which is what we might associate with conservatism in America
ah makes more sense
In that sense the Republican Party has always been and still is a liberal party
Well, for the most part. There's a lot of neo-conservative elements in the Party now
so the Democrats are conservative