Message from @Ben Garrison
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I think the Republicans were once liberal
Hey didn't the Democrats originally believe in slavery
back then, every black guy was Republican. The Republicans were against slavery
@Ben Garrison I think I'm an old-fashion liberal, kind of like Alex Jones
Don't really know at this point lol
The American idea of liberal is skewed. When the word liberal is used in a historical or European context it means classical liberalism, which is what we might associate with conservatism in America
ah makes more sense
In that sense the Republican Party has always been and still is a liberal party
Well, for the most part. There's a lot of neo-conservative elements in the Party now
so the Democrats are conservative
The Democrats were conservative at one point, and in the old school sense of the word too. Now they're better described as "progressive" even though that word has been transformed from its original context too
that's a long paragraph to say "yes"
progressive
so the Republicans were the union
and the Democrats were the confederacy
or no
Yes
***shit remove the rank***
wow it just got complicated af, its like I want to be conservative Republican, but its democrat
That was back when Democrats were undeniably the conservative party that represented agrarian interests and the Republicans represented more urban interests
It's just names really. There was a massive shift in the mid 20th century with all the Civil Rights stuff where the parties turned upside down on a lot of issues
well now I don't know rather to be conservative or liberal
Rofl, back at square 1
Got our asses backwards here
you know I don't really know what to say
guess I'm an old fashion Republican?
Or I could just call myself a Republican Libertarian
@Ben Garrison That fit?
Yeah, a lot of Republicans lean pretty heavily libertarian
still mean I could be a Civic Nationalist right
Yes
aight boi, Republican Libertarian Civic Nationalist that believes in multilateralism
bam bitch
settled
who cares about what the terms are
Just be a freethinker
Right Libertarian, damn right
The terms don't control my opinion, my opinion controls the term
That's some wise words you got there
There are also other brands of nationalism too. Such as cultural nationalism, which defines the nation on the basis of culture, religious nationalism, which does the same but in terms of religion, etc. I'd consider myself a cultural nationalist. I know there isn't one united American culture as of right now, but there should be. And I think that such a culture should favor duty, discipline, self-sacrifice, and traditional Christianity (as opposed to the new age hippie Christianity that modernists preach)
And I realize that once this new culture is established. It will be exclusively American as it should be, and foreigners will have a hard time comprehending it. This is alright though, since we're American and they're not. It would be like a British person trying to understand Chinese culture. Or vice versa.